 elbm
join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD
1 edit | Benifit My understanding of how these femto cells are to work; or what the true benifit is, is that it is not so much to improve cell reception in your house but to allow you to use your cell with out using up your minutes. So when you are calling out or receiving over the femto cell you would not use any of your plan minutes thus really allowing your cell to replace your home line.
The one thing I did not understand was why VZW would care if you used the femto cell elsewhere other than your house. What difference does it make where my call originates from? |
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 batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by elbm:The one thing I did not understand was why VZW would care if you used the femto cell elsewhere other than your house. What difference does it make where my call originates from? Verizon doesn't want one to set up a Verizon cell tower in Laos. |
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elbm
join:2000-08-03
Reisterstown, MD | I still don't see why. If I were to goto Laos, take my phone and femto cell-- use the hotels high speed connection I could at least make and receive calls. As for the possibility of others using the connection it would not be hard for VZ to restrict specific femtos to specific esns. There is no additional expense or burden on VZW whether the call originates on the internet in Laos or in Baltimore MD. So really what's the problem? |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
1 edit | reply to elbm
said by elbm:My understanding of how these femto cells are to work; or what the true benifit is, is that it is not so much to improve cell reception in your house but to allow you to use your cell with out using up your minutes. So when you are calling out or receiving over the femto cell you would not use any of your plan minutes thus really allowing your cell to replace your home line. The one thing I did not understand was why VZW would care if you used the femto cell elsewhere other than your house. What difference does it make where my call originates from? So my friend that lives in an area where he can only get dial up and where his cell coverage is also flaky at time. This is of no use to him. Me where I have access to broadband and get great cell coverage and have no need for this, I am the one Verizon is trying to sell this crap too? So basically Verizon is trying to sell ice to Eskimos and ignoring the desert dwellers who might actually need and want some ice. |
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The problem is that you're broadcasting verizon wireless radio waves in an unlicensed area.
I have a Sprint airave, the thing is great. I had 1 bar in my home and now i can use my phone all over. Best of all i got it for free since sprint will do anything to save a customer now. the device doesnt give my whole house 5 bars, BUT, even in the areas with 1 bar, calls work perfectly because the signal is a lot less noisy when connected to the airave. Overall its a greaet device. |
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OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA Reviews:
 ·Verizon FiOS
| reply to batterup
So, if someone makes a $50 device that generates a GPS signal that makes you look like you are in Verizon Territory, then you can use this anywhere. Note that GPS is transmitted on a single frequency and the real GPS signal is extremely low power. So, it should not be too hard to generate a signal. If I am correct, these things will sell like hotcakes outside the US. |
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to elbm
said by elbm: As for the possibility of others using the connection it would not be hard for VZ to restrict specific femtos to specific esns. This is supposed to be a Verizon cell site with no restrictions. Up to three callers can use it at the same time. I could make a mint with this out of the US if it were not GPS specific. |
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 RockyBBPremium
join:2005-01-31
Steamboat Springs, CO
1 edit | reply to elbm
said by elbm:My understanding of how these femto cells are to work; or what the true benifit is, is that it is not so much to improve cell reception in your house but to allow you to use your cell with out using up your minutes. The documentation in the link of the original news post above does not refer to free minutes for calls going through the Verizon Network Extender. Perhaps VzW is not going to copy Sprint's policy of free calls through the femtocell. [edit] we'll have to take a good look at the official marketing materials once the product is officially released. |
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to ace41690
said by ace41690:The problem is that you're broadcasting verizon wireless radio waves in an unlicensed area. Does one need a license to use a low power device? If so would Verizon's license cover a private individual? |
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to OwlSaver
said by OwlSaver:So, if someone makes a $50 device that generates a GPS signal that makes you look like you are in Verizon Territory, then you can use this anywhere. Note that GPS is transmitted on a single frequency and the real GPS signal is extremely low power. So, it should not be too hard to generate a signal. If I am correct, these things will sell like hotcakes outside the US. How could that be done? One's device broadcasts to specific satellites and the satellites report the position. I would think even a thought of interfering with a military satellite that is vital for national defense would get one an all expense paid vacation in Cuba. |
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to RockyBB
said by RockyBB: The documentation in the link of the original news post above does not refer to free minutes for calls going through the Verizon Network Extender. Perhaps VzW is not going to copy Sprint's policy of free calls through the femtocell. Verizon better because at&t is with their offer.
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"AT&T's new product is a small, security-enabled cellular base station that easily connects to your home DSL or Cable Internet, providing a reliable wireless signal for any 3G phone in every room of your house. The device allows you to have unlimited, nationwide Anytime Minutes for incoming or outgoing calls."
It also appears that there is a built in "security" to keep unwanted users out. |
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OwlSaverOwlSaverPremium
join:2005-01-30
Berwyn, PA Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS
| reply to batterup
My guess is it would be done in any country where a lot of people want to call the US. My guess would be that this country may not care if people are locally messing with the GPS signal.
But, this would only work if Verizon is offering unlimited calling. Does anyone know if Sprint devices are being used outside the US? I understand that the MagicJack device is very popular outside the US for this reason. |
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Reviews:
·DSL EXTREME
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Sprint doesn't offer free calls through the Airave. They charge an extra $10/mo on top of your monthly plan for umlimited calls while connected to your Airave.
»www.nextel.com/en/services/airav···ex.shtml |
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RockyBBPremium
join:2005-01-31
Steamboat Springs, CO | reply to OwlSaver
said by OwlSaver:Does anyone know if Sprint devices are being used outside the US? The Sprint Airave cannot be used outside the U.S. There is an interlock with GPS function to confirm E911 availability for the device to function. |
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batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by RockyBB:said by OwlSaver:Does anyone know if Sprint devices are being used outside the US? The Sprint Airave cannot be used outside the U.S. There is an interlock with GPS function to confirm E911 availability for the device to function. Wouldn't the cell phone GPS work just as it does on a regular cell tower? |
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RockyBBPremium
join:2005-01-31
Steamboat Springs, CO | said by batterup:Wouldn't the cell phone GPS work just as it does on a regular cell tower? Sprint Airave has its own GPS functionality. That's why it had limited availability for so long (Denver, Indy, and Nashville only), as they worked out the GPS/E911 stuff. If Sprint cannot confirm E911 availability based on the GPS location info, then the device will not allow calls. |
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| said by RockyBB: If Sprint cannot confirm E911 availability based on the GPS location info, then the device will not allow calls. Cool; we don't know where you are so die. |
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