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<title>Re: I agree for the most part...</title>
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<description><![CDATA[Guspaz posted : You should note that R0CKY isn't an end-user. He owns the ISP with 40,000 customers that he mentions. He buys 7 gigabits of connectivity from Bell to aggregate DSL subscribers. Bell is throttling individual DSL customers despite the fact that R0CKY's 7 gigabits of connectivity isn't saturated.<br><br>If R0CKY's customers use more bandwidth, R0CKY has to buy more GigE connections from Bell. So all arguments for throttling just fall out the window!<br><br>R0CKY's ISP has standard 200GB caps on regular accounts, with their "Unlimited" tier intended for users who use 300GB+ of bandwidth. Why shouldn't somebody think 300-500GB is OK when that's what their ISP is selling them?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:29:22 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>Re: I agree for the most part...</title>
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<description><![CDATA[grabeck posted : This is what I'm talking about.  Jarthur's brings up the main issue customers are dealing with.  What would u think the percentage of "abusers" are... 2%?  and yet instead of being proactive and public about those people, ISP's try to hide the fact they are making across the board throttles that effect the users who need the bandwidth and speed, yet don't abuse it.<br><br>Those who pay for unlimited service are not the issue as to the person above, it's the clowns out there that can't follow a simple rule that is clearly stated to them yet, whine and moan the topic of caps, etc. come up.  When an IPS says 100GB/month cap, I fail to see the logic in someone thinking 300-500GB is ok.... really what the hell?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:08:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[jarthur31 posted : I 100% agree with your sentiments here.   What makes me angry is that I've been given a paltry 512 kbps upload and that is not nearly enough for XBOX Live!  My ISP won't increase this because they fear everybody on the network will start torrenting or whatever and cripple their Intraweb.  <br><br>The DSL service in this area is no better and it doesn't look like they'll be installing fiber within the 5 years.   <br><br>I have no other ISP choice here so I'm screwed.  ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:49:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DJMASACRE posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/841822" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=841822');">grabeck</a>:</small><br><br>That throttling should be in place, however, not in it's current state.  <br><br>If I understand correctly, ISP's are worried about abuse.  If that is the case there is NO reason why a customer like myself should be throttled.<br><br>I have a 100GB monthly cap with Shaw.  On average I use 20-40GB of that bandwidth... far less the 50%.  Yet, I know I'm throttled on my on-line gaming experience as well as any torrents I may pull down.  Unacceptable in my opinion.  <br><br>We as customers should not have any bandwidth restrictions UNTIL we are above or "abuse" what we pay for.  If I were to use over 100GB of bandwidth in a month, that yes, I would expect to be throttled to no end for "abusing" Shaw's network.  Until I hit that number however, any type of tampering with my allotted bandwidth is just bad business.<br> </div>Nobody should be throttled.  If they are it should be to the providers discretion.  Not the big company do it to all the smaller companies without telling them. <br><br>I have unlimited, no caps, and reach over 500Gigs per month.<br><br>Even if there was "better" throttling practices involved, then you SHOULD be the one who is throttled since you barely use up much download for the month, and as long as you can play games. <br><br>I on the other hand want to use all my bandwidth all month because thats what I paid for and expect.  And I do get that now thank goodness NOT throttled. <br><br>The way it always should be. ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:08:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[R0CKY posted : Imagine if you paid for 40,000 DSL Lines, and 2,240,000GB (7,000Mbps) of backbone traffic every month and were being told all of a sudden that Joe user #33004, #4503 & #34207 were somehow abusing their DSL connections and another 1000-2000 or so were deemed abusers also, so they're now going to take over our network (being as their responsibility stops in Toronto, where the Internet starts) and make decisions that aren't theirs to make!<br><br>...all in the name of network management?  On something I paid in full for!?  Unlike DSL connections we're not paying for "up to" services... we're paying for an aggregation of services, which some, apparently had no intentions on delivering.<br><br>This is all one big bad dream right now!<br><small>--<br>TSI Rocky - TekSavvy Solutions Inc.<br><br>Authorized TSI employee ( &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/teksavvy">TekSavvy FAQ</A> &raquo;<A HREF="/faq/14672#14672">Official support in the forum</A> )<br></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:07:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[grabeck posted : That throttling should be in place, however, not in it's current state.  <br><br>If I understand correctly, ISP's are worried about abuse.  If that is the case there is NO reason why a customer like myself should be throttled.<br><br>I have a 100GB monthly cap with Shaw.  On average I use 20-40GB of that bandwidth... far less the 50%.  Yet, I know I'm throttled on my on-line gaming experience as well as any torrents I may pull down.  Unacceptable in my opinion.  <br><br>We as customers should not have any bandwidth restrictions UNTIL we are above or "abuse" what we pay for.  If I were to use over 100GB of bandwidth in a month, that yes, I would expect to be throttled to no end for "abusing" Shaw's network.  Until I hit that number however, any type of tampering with my allotted bandwidth is just bad business.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:43:27 EDT</pubDate>
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