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Re: The Holy one will provide said by the_ticket :said by neowulf:Electricity is the same price per 1 kWh as my home in Daytona Beach, Fl. Another thing... this statement is exactly what I'm talking about. Why do you think electricity costs the same price per kWh as your home in Daytona Beach? Do you really think it costs the same to bring that electricity out to that ranch in the sticks as it does to bring it to a house in a neighborhood that has 400 other homes? Its being subsidized. The transmission lines for the ranch were subsidized and the electricity is being subsidized... Huge, huge myth!
I live in Wantage, NJ. It's a nice little rural town. Electricity is cheaper out here than the rest of the state because it is supplied by a member owned cooperative (Sussex Rural Electric Cooperative). Every member owns a share, gets voting rights and even gets dividends!
It was done this way precisely because investor owned utilities did not want to service rural areas. We co-own generation facilities along with other co-ops, and buy only about 30% of our power on the open market.
THAT is the height of self sufficiency.
You want to hear about subsidies? Why the hell is PSE&G, a big investor owned utility coming here and saying that they will take our PRIVATE PROPERTY to run a powerline? PSE&G is running this powerline from Pennsylvania to Essex County NJ to supply big cities like Newark and almost certainly NYC.
In case you didn't understand I'll say it again.
Big city utilities want to take private property from rural land owners to run a powerline to supply power to big cities. The land owners will most likely not be properly compensated, and the decline in property values for neighboring property owners will be immense, and they will get NO compensation for it.
The land owners could of course say no, in which case the utility will simply go to the state and get the state to seize the land through eminent domain.
So again I ask, who's subsidizing who? |
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| If your system works so well, use coops to deploy broadband in under served areas. Don't expect the rest of us to pay for it with buildout requirements. |
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| said by the_ticket :
If your system works so well, use coops to deploy broadband in under served areas. Don't expect the rest of us to pay for it with buildout requirements.
I would be fine with that if I didn't pay for things like urban school districts or the million other things that rural taxpayers are forced to subsidize.
If inner city taxpayers were forced to pay the true cost of their public schools and infrastructure they would be taxed close to 100%. It is because of subsidies by suburban and rural taxpayers that the cities get the best of the best.
And the fact that we subsidize and support urban America so much pretty much means that we need to get something in return. Forcing buildout of broadband services is really a small price to pay. |
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| How are you subsidizing things like urban school districts or anything else? School districts are funded by the property taxes of the people in that particular district. If your property taxes are being used to fund the school district of an "inner city" then you aren't as rural as you think you are. Furthermore, I've already stated I do not support subsidies OF ANY KIND for anybody for anything. |
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