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 RR ConductorHappy 40th AmtrakPremium
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2 edits | The same IGNORANCE of rural needs I see the usual crap thrown about in here, mostly by people in larger cities who are completely ignorant of rural needs, or of the MAJOR contributions made by rural America (you know, things like FOOD, WATER, RAW MATERIALS, COAL, ELECTRICTY,etc.). So, since they do produce so much, should they not then see some of the same things and compensation that their bigger city friends do? Why should they be left out of the new economy? | |
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| Re: The same IGNORANCE of rural needs Country > city in every way shape and form.
If you want rural with all the luxuries of the city, move to a town with a major industry reliant on broadband and other technologies. Then, you get all the same technology as it is already there :P
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| | | Not to mention that a lot of fiber for broadband backbones pass through rural areas, often with land owners being forced to give up land in the form of utility easements, or even worse - being forced off that property for good. | |
| beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | People and companies are PAID for these raw materials. WV isn't "donating" coal.
Forcing companies to serve broadband into unprofitable areas is nothing more that a handout.
Why not a broadband co-op? I see lots of mention of electric and gas co-ops...why not broadband? | |
| | | | Re: The same IGNORANCE of rural needs said by beaups:People and companies are PAID for these raw materials. WV isn't "donating" coal. Forcing companies to serve broadband into unprofitable areas is nothing more that a handout. Why not a broadband co-op? I see lots of mention of electric and gas co-ops...why not broadband? AMEN | |
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1 edit | said by beaups:People and companies are PAID for these raw materials. WV isn't "donating" coal. First of all, if you buy a house and land these days, you most likely don't own the mineral rights. That was sold a long time ago. The real owner of the mineral rights can come along at any time, pay you a small fee, if any, to relocate you, then come take all of the oil/gas/coal under your property, and there's not a damn thing you can do because they own the mineral rights.
Secondly, even though you "pay" for things like electricity and water from rural areas, many times this infrastructure is built on land taken from unwilling landowners via eminent domain and utility easements. They are paid a non-negotiable amount which is far below the fair market value of their property, and have NO choice in the matter. If they don't cooperate, the utility companies will go to the state PUC and get them to condemn your house and forcibly seize your property. This is done primarily for the benefit of the urban areas who have exploding populations and no space for power generating plants or water reservoirs.
As far as subsidies go, urban areas get far more of it than rural areas.
Farm subsidies for family farms aren't nearly as much as the farm subsidies paid to corporate farmers. Small farmers really don't get many breaks, which is why an increasing number of them are simply selling their farms to developers who build ugly McMansions and shopping malls. Add to that all of the cheap imports and you will see why family farms are now on the endangered list.
Meanwhile, urban areas get lots of housing tax breaks and in NJ we have what you call "abbott districts" which are urban school districts that the state takes money from rural districts to fund. This means that money is taken away from our already poor rural schools to fund so called "disadvantaged" inner city schools. | |
| | | beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | Re: The same IGNORANCE of rural needs I don't see where you are replying to my post.
You are using the analogy that rural "gives" us raw materials. Not true. They sell us raw materials and that, in many cases, supports their entire economy. I spent a lot of time in Man, West Virginia. Ask someone there what would happen if us "evil urbanites" stopped buying their coal.
And you can use your exception cases of eminant domain, mineral rights, etc. These are the exceptions and not the norm. People in cities face these same issues. Right here in urban Hilliard OH 40 people down the road were forced to "sell" their homes to the city to widen a bottlenecked road. Does that mean EVERYONE here has to give their homes away? no.
So please clarify why exactly a corporation should be forced to do business ANYWHERE that they don't want to. Then explain why they should be forced to do a grossly unprofitable business there? Why have we not forced water companies to bring in water? Why have we not forced NG companies to run NG to every home?? Why haven't the co-ops done it? No profit. | |
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