 DeathWish
join:2009-02-26
1 edit | reply to abg Re: [ Classes] DK best DPS spec
Archivis, I'm using your 51/0/20 diseaseless spec -- gotta say I'm liking it a whole lot more than 21/50/0 Frost. Was on Thaddius last night hitting 15K OB Ran CoT also and I outpaced everyone on overall damage. Life is good.
Curious what you are using for Major & Minor Glyphs.
I have Obliterate, Ghoul, Blood Strike (for Majors) Don't recall for minors,... but I think it's Raise the Dead, Pestilence and Horn of Winter. |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth | Glyphs are just about identical. Minors are... minor and relatively irrelevant (that's an awesome combo of words btw). Instead of Pestilence, I use Corpse Explosion.
I don't use pestilence.
3.1, different story. |
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  Dextov
@rr.com | reply to Bob the Bobster Archi Can you plz link your talent tree and tell me what rotation you use?? |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth | Look up Novaus on Feathermoon.
Rotation is OBx2, HSx2, RP Dump |
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  Dextov
@rr.com | So what dmg do you do on the target dummy DPS wise in Ebon Hold?? |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth | It's been a long time since I tried, but on a "Greater than 1%" HP target dummy, I think my last parse was 3200 DPS for 10 minutes. |
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 Sithra
join:2008-02-07
| I specced into a Unholy tank spec but tried to keep some DPS talents yesterday.
It backfired, my dps was 1300 on VoA 25 My DPS gear is awful compared to my tank gear but still, was a little ashamed
»eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet···=Sistine |
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 DeathWish
join:2009-02-26
| reply to Bob the Bobster Sorry for resurrecting this old thread again,...
Picked up Jawbone last night (replacing Titansteel Destroyer) and using Archi's diseaseless blood spec -- sure love seeing my name in the top 1-3 dps 
Question: Have been wanting Black Ice (10 Man Maly) for a long time. Is it better than Jawbone? Would peeps have a cardiac arrest if I roll? |
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 Ghastlyone
join:2009-01-07 North Las Vegas, NV
| said by DeathWish :Sorry for resurrecting this old thread again,... Picked up Jawbone last night (replacing Titansteel Destroyer) and using Archi's diseaseless blood spec -- sure love seeing my name in the top 1-3 dps  Question: Have been wanting Black Ice (10 Man Maly) for a long time. Is it better than Jawbone? Would peeps have a cardiac arrest if I roll? I'm currently using the Black Ice pole arm on my DK. IMO, it's a ton better, with the Attack Power, Agility, huge amount of Hit rating and Crit. I think the speed is even faster then that mace also.
I've actually had other DK's pretty much laugh at me for using a pole arm like that.....but then I'm usually the one laughing after damage meters get posted. |
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  sleuth Premium join:2001-08-30 Chicago, IL
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2 edits | reply to Bob the Bobster If you're diseaseless blood, stay with the jawbone. +Str is your strongest attribute and mitigates a lot better then AP. Also it'll be more beneficial when you receive the Kings buff since it's a % increase in stats. If you're AP heavy you'll receive a far less dmg bonus.
Also what Ghastly said isn't entirely true, the stats he mentioned: agility, hit, AP are most beneficial for a dual wield build - which is very similar to a rogue. This doesn't mean ignore them because you always want to be hit capped. With 2H you want the highest dmg possible, so when you crit your Obli, which should be 50% of the time, you'll average around 10k+ |
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 Ghastlyone
join:2009-01-07 North Las Vegas, NV
1 edit | said by sleuth :If you're diseaseless blood, stay with the jawbone. +Str is your strongest attribute and mitigates a lot better then AP. Also it'll be more beneficial when you receive the Kings buff since it's a % increase in stats. If you're AP heavy you'll receive a far less dmg bonus. Also what Ghastly said isn't entirely true, the stats he mentioned: agility, hit, AP are most beneficial for a dual wield build - which is very similar to a rogue. This doesn't mean ignore them because you always want to be hit capped. With 2H you want the highest dmg possible, so when you crit your Obli, which should be 50% of the time, you'll average around 10k+ Yeah I forgot to mention, that that pole arm i'm using along with my Cloak are basically the only 2 +AP items i'm using. Everything else I'm using is all +strength.
I like the this pole arm for the +72 hit rating and the amount of crit%. |
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 DeathWish
join:2009-02-26 | Black Ice would be nice for the +72 hit for me as well,...this will put me slightly above the hit cap.
That way I can use my trinket again with the +84 crit. |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth
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| reply to Bob the Bobster Hit cap is priority. If you're above cap, then its a waste.
Make your gear decisions accordingly. I'm at hit cap with a Jawbone equipped. When spec'd Blood, I am expertise capped as well. Having a weapon with Black Ice (which I assume by what you guys wrote and not necessarily by looking it up) has hit on it, which would be a wasted stat for me.
Make your gear decisions intelligently based upon that. If you need hit, get the weapon with hit. If you can get this weapon and remove hit trinkets for damage trinkets, or replace hit gems with STR gems, then get the hit weapon.
If you're like me, and have achieved hit cap without the use of hit trinkets/enchants/gems and just get it naturally with your gear, don't go for Black Ice. -- I melt faces. |
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 DeathWish
join:2009-02-26
| Yes, I do switch gear around to get hit capped at 296 (presently 301).
I also like to see my AP @ ~3.5K+, and crit +30% (all unbuffed).
I'm pushing very close to the expertise cap of 26 as well.
So everytime I get gear, I have to play around with all the stats, re-gem, re-enchant, etc.
If the loot gods are kind to me,... I will grab Black Ice next time it drops,... it will give me more options. |
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  Gaff
@wideopenwest.com
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Hello
I'm new to these boards, Thought I would seek some advice from some of the Veterans here. Here is my armory »www.wowarmory.com/character-shee···g&n=Gaff . My spec is 51-13-7 . I am having trouble breaking 3k on anything mob or dummy. I know I need to replace some things any advice would be greatly appreciate. Glyphs- IT-PS-OB
Rotation New PS-IT-HS-HS-OB-DC/DUMP OB-HS-HS-HS-HS-DC/DUMP
I have tried this rotation BUT SEEM TO GET MORE OUT OF THE FIRST ONE
Old OB-OB-PS-IT-HS-HS-/DC/DUMP OB-HS-HS-HS-HS-DC/DUMP |
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  Archivis Your Daddy Premium join:2001-11-26 Earth
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| When I checked your armory, you were 51/0/20. I assume that you're using a different rotation and possibly different glyphs than what's in your post now.
I would sincerely recommend specing to Unholy with your current gear situation. 17/0/54, Glyph of SS, Ghoul, whatever (for the third), get the Scourge Strike sigil. |
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 Thaler Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA | reply to Bob the Bobster Re: [ Classes] DK best DPS spec
So...what all specs did everyone settle on?
Personally went 51/2/18, Death Striking.  |
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 JohnnyBoy
join:2009-03-04 | Staying with 17/51/3, Frost Striking. 
HB > OB > BS > BS > FS dump OB > OB > OB > FS dump
Mixing in HB on cooldown / RIME procs. |
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 Ghastlyone
join:2009-01-07 North Las Vegas, NV
| reply to Bob the Bobster I spec'd last night another 51/0/20 build. The change to DRW was much needed. A lot of people see the DRW change a nerf, but I see it as good change.
The 3min CD before made your DPS lack and not stay consistent. 3min. seemed like an eternity to wait on for this to come bac up. Now with only a 1.5min CD and (eventually) Glyphed, this talent will be godly.
I don't like the change to Blade Barrier, and the Blood Gorged experise change is also lame.
Last night I was able to pull a consistent 4k dps on the non heroic target dummies. With no other buffs except Horn.
BTW this morning....I absolutely recked a Human Frost DK with 31k health in tank gear. I saw her drop in on a mining node, so I dropped in behind her and showed her what was up. |
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