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<description><![CDATA[Alexoi posted : Go to this site, &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.talentchic.com/" >www.talentchic.com/</A>  ,pick you class and choose the most popular build.  Problem solved.<br><br>Quoted from their website<br><br>"How We Find The Most Popular Talent Builds<br>To find the most popular talent builds, the system scans both the US and EU WoW armory sites to find the talent points chosen by characters. It then sorts those according class, spec and playstyle and collates the results.<br><br>We don&#146;t just look at any old character though! We have spent the last few months finding the best players in all parts of the game (according to their gear). Since patch 3.0.2 released, we have furiously been scanning the armory to find what talent specs these top players have chosen.<br><br>While we&#146;re looking at gear, we also record each character&#146;s playstyle (where most of their gear has come from) because a talent spec can change between PvE and PvP. You can use this as a filter to find the most appropriate build for you.<br><br>We continually scan the armory and update the popularity score of the most popular builds hourly. If you&#146;d like to keep track of changes to the most popular build for your class and spec, please click on the &#147;Watch this list for changes&#148; link on the main site.<br><br>Currently only the top level 70 players are scanned. Once Wrath of the Lich King is released, and the level cap has increased to 80, this site will also keep track of the leveling builds used on the way to 80, as well as the level 80 raiding and PvP builds."]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Hey, i've read most of this thread and have been trying out a few specs.. Currently my spec is the new favored 17/51/3 spec.<br><br>I personally like it but the WWS is whats unsettling me.<br>I'm pushing roughly 3.5-4 in 25mans which to me isn't enough with my current gear..<br><br>My armory is <br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Burning+Blade&n=Babyfear" >www.wowarmory.com/character-shee&middot;&middot;&middot;Babyfear</A><br><br>and the rotation im sticking to right now is <br><br>IT > PS > BS > BT > OB > OB > FS (rune dump)<br><br>Who wants to help me :p?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:05:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : But unless you are in a hardcore raiding guild that dictates what spec you choose, play with what you like. Unholy *IS* nice for effortless AoE, though.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:47:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Dandy posted : most dks alot of top raiding guilds are unholy spec.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:05:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : Alright. If you want to go Blood DPS, here's your choices:<br><br>51/2/18 - Dancing Rune Weapon<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVh0IcfofostMZfMh0xc:GLIMmV" >www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVh0I&middot;&middot;&middot;c:GLIMmV</A><br><br>50/0/21 - Unholy Blight<br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVh0IcfofosxZfMhhLcz:GLIMmV" >www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVMVh0I&middot;&middot;&middot;z:GLIMmV</A><br><br>Now, there are some aruable point mixes in Blood, namely Bloodworms & Vampiric Blood. Some people like putting these into Rune Tap, Mark of Blood, or any combination of which, but everything else is pretty cookie-cutter standard. I use the choices I list there (Vampiric Blood & Bloodworms) because I don't finding myself needing multiple "oh s***" buttons. The extra DPS & mitigation of Bloodworms were worth it in my opinion.<br><br>As for which of the two specs to use, again, it's your call. It comes down to playstyle and possibly Glyph avaliability. Do you like constantly having steady damage up (Unholy Blight) or mass temporary damage every minute or two (Dancing Rune Weapon)? Hit the target test dummies and find out which works best for you. Personally, I went DRW because it times very well for my uber DPS macro (Hysteria + DRW + DPS Trinket).<br><br>Also, as a side note, for the Unholy Blight spec, wether or not you want to max Necrosis or Ravenous Dead is argueable. +4% auto attack damage vs. +1% Strength is really too close to call.<br><br>PS. Feel free to link your armory if you want me to give it a gander. Also, if you're running Blood DPS, please do use the appropriate cycles.<br><br>PS > IT > HS > HS > DS > DCx1 -or- UB<br>DS > HS > HS > HS > HS > DCx2<br><br>Massage the death coils according to your rune cooldowns at the time, and never deathcoil yourself under 25 runic energy (screws up the +% Death Strike damage glyph bonus).]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:06:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : Not quite in a place to agree with ya there yet. My guild's being quite anal with their 10-man progression before they're hitting Ulduar, so I can't tell you if there's anything really fresh yet (and this server's also pretty inept at fielding PUG Naxx 25 man, so I'm not holding my breath for PUG Ulduar). But, from what I've heard, basically the die-hard raiders got their wish.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:53:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : Glad to see that I made the right choice in cancelling my account.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:49:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : Why would you go 52/0/19? I've only seen 51/2/18 or 50/0/21, but I can't think of a single DPS talent in Blood that requires >51 points.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:47:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : Pick up the titansteel destroyer as well.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:54:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Wow i dont know how to think u it wasnt the spec i had cause i went dack to 52/0/19 and with horn of winter on the boss dummy i am exceding 1500 dps consistent all it was is the rotation of my abilities. i know tht 1500 is not great compared to yous guys but when before i could barely get 1000 well not anymore lol.but considering im still using the de-raged waraxe but i have a spiked titansteel helm and the ice striker cloak im trying man. but really appreciated thx.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:16:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I really appreciate you taking the time to type all the out i fill it will help me with getting the max dps out of my player as he is right now. i will let you know how it goes. i was 54/0/17 before but was onl pulling like 1200-1300 depending on buffs but apparently with the gear i have is pretty good. i men obviuosly im def. not you guys but i guess i just max for what i have.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:17:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : Dear anonymous,<br><br>Firstly, focus on getting your hit rating via enchantments, gems, and drops to as close to 300 as possible.<br><br>Secondly, google "dps DK help" or "DK pre-raid gear" or something related to get a good idea of the available gear out there. Start doing daily quests for the different factions--all of them have different gear and enchantments that can advance what you have.<br><br>Make friends with a reliable tank or healer and start running heroic dungeons to get the possible drops out there. This will be your biggest source of advancement--wearing tabards will advance your reputation for every mob/boss you kill and you'll get drops.<br><br>As for rotations, pick a tree you like (blood has self-healing and huge single target crits, frost capitalizes on Obliterate and Howling Blast mechanics and Unholy has all the little DoTs that add up to massive damage) and run with it.<br><br>Your usual rotation goes something like this:<br><br>Icy Touch, Plague Strike, blood rune strike (blood strike or Heart Strike if blood) x2, then Death Strike (blood), Obliterate (frost), or Scourge Strike (unholy). Then dump your runic power thru death coils (blood), frost strikes (frost), or Unholy Blight (Unholy, then death coils when it's up.<br><br>Pick talents in your tree that turn the other runes into death runes so you can use your tree's special strikes with those runes.<br><br>Each tree has special abilities: Blood has a Dancing Rune Weapon that copies your attacks, and Hysteria that increases your damage at cost to your health. Frost has Howling Blast, an attack that can crit on any mob close for massive damage. Unholy has a permanent pet, Unholy Blight (damages any enemy close), an extra disease, and a Gargoyle.<br><br>Each class also can buff your entire group or raid: Blood has Abomination's Might (+10% strength). Frost has Icy Talons (I think that's the name)-- +20% melee haste. Unholy has a third disease that increases all magic attacks against the target by 13% (casters will love you).<br><br>Anyways... there's a primer. :-)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:57:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : i have a quick question and yes its perfectly fine to call me a noob but i really need help in what is the best dps spec for a first time 80 dk and what rotation i am only pulling like with buffs 1300 ya i know sad lol. But any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I realize my gear isnt tier 7 or anything like tht but i have some epics and a couple of 200 item lvl weapons. Just looking for some frindly advice]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:06:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : ran 52/0/19 topped dps hit a lovely 17k DS on razor, im pretty much hitting diseaseless unless a situation occurs like XT temper tantrum lol throw up ps, it to heal self, let the healers worry about the clothies lol, going thru alot of different specs we also did patchwork 25 to test it, pre patch id hit patch for 5.2k, last night was doing 6.1k dps with old diseaseless rotation (using DS) 8D]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:15:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : No complaints here. I was tanking tonight as a heroics-geared tank in HoS and pulled an average of 1800 dps as a frost tank.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:05:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : I have been levelling my DK using the desise less rotation. Since obliterate has been nrefed - lost 9% crit with blood specc - I kept using a desise less rotation with Death Strike insted og Obliterate. My dps actually increased :) and on elite mobs - I keep desises up and heals myself easily with DS.<br><br>I thought DK was nerfed in this patch but blood has been buffed :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:56:58 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[pwrtoppl posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1618800" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1618800');">abg</a>:</small><br><br>I'm currently using a 17/51/3 spec. I'm torn between that and 51/2/18.<br><br>1) What rotation are you using to get 4k dps on a non-heroic target dummy? I was averaging 3k dps on the raid boss target dummies (though granted, they were at ~1 hp, so diseases didn't tick right) in both specs and consider myself decently geared (Deathaxe on Mal'Ganis).<br> </div>are you going up against the boss dummy? or level 80 dummies? cause the numbers do change between the two]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:06:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Dandy posted : what are your specs now in 3.1?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:30:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[abg posted : I'm currently using a 17/51/3 spec. I'm torn between that and 51/2/18.<br><br>In some relatively quick testing (~3-4 minutes on a raid-level dummy) I find that they are roughly the same dps with the frost build being ever so slightly more dps. That is without using Hysteria, which, over 3 minutes, would probably balance it out.<br><br>Right now I can't find the HB glyph or the DRW glyph, so that would impact overall dps. Right now I'm doing:<br><br>IT > BS > HB > OB > FS dump<br><br>I want to change that to:<br>HB > OB > BSx2 > FS dump || HB > OBx2 > FS dump.<br><br>2 things out of curiosity for blood, though:<br><br>1) What rotation are you using to get 4k dps on a non-heroic target dummy? I was averaging 3k dps on the raid boss target dummies (though granted, they were at ~1 hp, so diseases didn't tick right) in both specs and consider myself decently geared (Deathaxe on Mal'Ganis).<br><br>2) Is anyone using Obliterate over Death Strike as blood? I did some testing on the PTR and on live and they both push roughly the same dps overall though OB is more than DS by a small amount, which seems to be made up with the extra disease dmg. I'm largely curious if one will eventually show a distinct advantage over the other as gear scales.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:30:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Ghastlyone posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/945359" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=945359');">Thaler</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1609984" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1609984');">Ghastlyone</a>:</small><br><br>I spec'd last night another 51/0/20 build. </div>Outta curiocity, how goes your RP when dumping? I went 51/2/18 so that I consistently have enough RP that DS doesn't dwaddle on me (and the +3 sec on DRW ain't bad either!). I didn't really see any "must grab" talents in unholy that made me look back on 51/0/20.<br> </div>To be honest...with having the 4set Tier7 bonus, I can never seem to get rid of runic power fast enough. <br><br>Soon as I can get my hands on a DRW glyph, that talent will be really nice.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:34:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : Lol. How do you I think about Unbreakable Armor/Bone Shield having their CD doubled to 2 minutes?? They're strictly relegated to boss CDs or popped at the start of a pull so DPS can kill a couple elites before they drop off.<br><br>I'm always half tempted to go "Wait a minute guys, Unbreakable Armor has another 70 seconds of CD, someone throw down a feast or something" after every pull. If every DK tank did that, enough people would qq that the CDs would be lowered again.<br><br>Ah, I wish.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:27:19 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[pwrtoppl posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1620434" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1620434');">Krisnatharok</a>:</small><br><br>I'm pretty sure UB glyphed will only give 30 seconds. At least that's what the patch notes said...<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://wowdata.getbuffed.com/?i=45803" >wowdata.getbuffed.com/?i=45803</A><br> </div>still...30 additional seconds, would help me out...i miss pushing those extra buttons i hide between my gargoyle and death coil...<br><br>edit: 10 additional seconds? alright, that can blow me...<br>nvm, ill just stick to the stupid 20 second stop and hit this key rotation]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:12:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : I'm pretty sure UB glyphed will only give 30 seconds. At least that's what the patch notes said...<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://wowdata.getbuffed.com/?i=45803" >wowdata.getbuffed.com/?i=45803</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:49:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[pwrtoppl posted : well, after a night of buggy instance servers, i did manage to throw down on a eoe run, though it was laggy (being part of the instance server)<br>after my respec into unholy...i still stayed at #1 dps, and enjoy the new rotation. i think dks didnt change too much on dps, though i cant wait to get the unholy blight glyph (cause itll give a minute as opposed to 20 seconds), i admit, i forget to dump rp into it every twenty seconds (130 cap now and still forget the basics)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 02:25:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : 30k unique views. Awesome!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:38:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1609984" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1609984');">Ghastlyone</a>:</small><br><br>I spec'd last night another 51/0/20 build. </div>Outta curiocity, how goes your RP when dumping? I went 51/2/18 so that I consistently have enough RP that DS doesn't dwaddle on me (and the +3 sec on DRW ain't bad either!). I didn't really see any "must grab" talents in unholy that made me look back on 51/0/20.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Krisnatharok posted : I ended up ditching unholy for tanking and went with frost. It made me a tad squishier (according to my healer), but no more spikey damage.<br><br>Getbuffed updated their talent calculators, but I can't get them to load. I had 10 points in blood (blade barrier and bladed armor) and 5 in unholy (anticipation).<br><br>I believe improved frost presence gives better mitigation than what I was going to see in unholy. Glyphed Unbreakable Armor is ungodly, as is an 18-second Icebound Fortitude (on a 1min CD!) This means that I will have a cooldown going 2/3rds of the time (IBF for 18sec, UA for 20 sec, then 22 sec down before IBF pops again). I also have my monarch crab dodge trinket, the essence of gossamer tanking trinket, and the anti-magic shell to dampen a caster's punch.<br><br>All in all I was very happy. I had time to run H CoS and H UK before work, and as long as I used cooldowns on fights where more than 3 elites were banging on me, it was easymode. Recount wasn't updated so I had no idea what my dps was, but I saw frost strikes critting above 4k frequently, and D&D + HB is just ungodly for snap aggro. <br><br>I also love imp. frost presence--I keep my 30k hp when in blood presence! Very fun times. :-D<br><small>--<br>Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst.</small>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Ghastlyone posted : Also I forgot to add...with the changes made to Blood, I'm still really surprised they didn't do anything to Mark of Blood.<br><br>That talent is still probably the most over powered thing in PVP, but yet they didn't touch it.<br><br>I love popping that on Rogue or Fury Warriors and just sit back and laugh.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Ghastlyone posted : I spec'd last night another 51/0/20 build. The change to DRW was much needed. A lot of people see the DRW change a nerf, but I see it as good change. <br><br>The 3min CD before made your DPS lack and not stay consistent. 3min. seemed like an eternity to wait on for this to come bac up. Now with only a 1.5min CD and (eventually) Glyphed, this talent will be godly.<br><br>I don't like the change to Blade Barrier, and the Blood Gorged experise change is also lame.<br><br>Last night I was able to pull a consistent 4k dps on the non heroic target dummies. With no other buffs except Horn.<br><br>BTW this morning....I absolutely recked a Human Frost DK with 31k health in tank gear. I saw her drop in on a mining node, so I dropped in behind her and showed her what was up.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:23:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[JohnnyBoy posted : Staying with 17/51/3, Frost Striking.  ;)<br><br>HB > OB > BS > BS > FS dump<br>OB > OB > OB > FS dump<br><br>Mixing in HB on cooldown / RIME procs.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:32:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Thaler posted : So...what all specs did everyone settle on?<br><br>Personally went 51/2/18, Death Striking. :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:03:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : When I checked your armory, you were 51/0/20.  I assume that you're using a different rotation and possibly different glyphs than what's in your post now.<br><br>I would sincerely recommend specing to Unholy with your current gear situation.  17/0/54, Glyph of SS, Ghoul, whatever (for the third), get the Scourge Strike sigil.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:43:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Hello <br><br>I'm new to these boards, Thought I would seek some advice from some of the Veterans here. Here is my armory &raquo;<A HREF="http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Gaff" >www.wowarmory.com/character-shee&middot;&middot;&middot;g&n=Gaff</A> . My spec is 51-13-7 . I am having trouble breaking 3k on anything mob or dummy. I know I need to replace some things any advice would be greatly appreciate. <br>Glyphs- IT-PS-OB <br><br>Rotation <br>New <br>PS-IT-HS-HS-OB-DC/DUMP <br>OB-HS-HS-HS-HS-DC/DUMP <br><br>I have tried this rotation BUT SEEM TO GET MORE OUT OF THE FIRST ONE <br><br>Old <br>OB-OB-PS-IT-HS-HS-/DC/DUMP <br>OB-HS-HS-HS-HS-DC/DUMP ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:34:59 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DeathWish posted : Yes, I do switch gear around to get hit capped at 296 (presently 301).<br><br>I also like to see my AP @ ~3.5K+, and crit +30% (all unbuffed).<br><br>I'm pushing very close to the expertise cap of 26 as well.<br><br>So everytime I get gear, I have to play around with all the stats, re-gem, re-enchant, etc.<br><br>If the loot gods are kind to me,... I will grab Black Ice next time it drops,... it will give me more options.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 18:54:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : Hit cap is priority.  If you're above cap, then its a waste.<br><br>Make your gear decisions accordingly.  I'm at hit cap with a Jawbone equipped.  When spec'd Blood, I am expertise capped as well.  Having a weapon with Black Ice (which I assume by what you guys wrote and not necessarily by looking it up) has hit on it, which would be a wasted stat for me.<br><br>Make your gear decisions intelligently based upon that.  If you need hit, get the weapon with hit.  If you can get this weapon and remove hit trinkets for damage trinkets, or replace hit gems with STR gems, then get the hit weapon.<br><br>If you're like me, and have achieved hit cap without the use of hit trinkets/enchants/gems and just get it naturally with your gear, don't go for Black Ice.<br><small>--<br>I melt faces.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:50:55 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DeathWish posted : Black Ice would be nice for the +72 hit for me as well,...this will put me slightly above the hit cap.<br><br>That way I can use my trinket again with the +84 crit.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:11:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Ghastlyone posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/464077" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=464077');">sleuth</a>:</small><br><br>If you're diseaseless blood, stay with the jawbone. +Str is your strongest attribute and mitigates a lot better then AP. Also it'll be more beneficial when you receive the Kings buff since it's a % increase in stats. If you're AP heavy you'll receive a far less dmg bonus.<br><br>Also what Ghastly said isn't entirely true, the stats he mentioned: agility, hit, AP are most beneficial for a dual wield build - which is very similar to a rogue. This doesn't mean ignore them because you always want to be hit capped. With 2H you want the highest dmg possible, so when you crit your Obli, which should be 50% of the time, you'll average around 10k+<br> </div>Yeah I forgot to mention, that that pole arm i'm using along with my Cloak are basically the only 2 +AP items i'm using. Everything else I'm using is all +strength.<br><br>I like the this pole arm for the +72 hit rating and the amount of crit%.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:41:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[sleuth posted : If you're diseaseless blood, stay with the jawbone. +Str is your strongest attribute and mitigates a lot better then AP. Also it'll be more beneficial when you receive the Kings buff since it's a % increase in stats. If you're AP heavy you'll receive a far less dmg bonus.<br><br>Also what Ghastly said isn't entirely true, the stats he mentioned: agility, hit, AP are most beneficial for a dual wield build - which is very similar to a rogue. This doesn't mean ignore them because you always want to be hit capped. With 2H you want the highest dmg possible, so when you crit your Obli, which should be 50% of the time, you'll average around 10k+]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:27:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Ghastlyone posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1624572" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1624572');">DeathWish</a>:</small><br><br>Sorry for resurrecting this old thread again,...<br><br>Picked up Jawbone last night (replacing Titansteel Destroyer) and using Archi's diseaseless blood spec -- sure love seeing my name in the top 1-3 dps :)<br><br>Question:  Have been wanting Black Ice (10 Man Maly) for a long time.  Is it better than Jawbone?  Would peeps have a cardiac arrest if I roll?<br> </div>I'm currently using the Black Ice pole arm on my DK. IMO, it's a ton better, with the Attack Power, Agility, huge amount of Hit rating and Crit. I think the speed is even faster then that mace also.<br><br>I've actually had other DK's pretty much laugh at me for using a pole arm like that.....but then I'm usually the one laughing after damage meters get posted.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:13:49 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DeathWish posted : Sorry for resurrecting this old thread again,...<br><br>Picked up Jawbone last night (replacing Titansteel Destroyer) and using Archi's diseaseless blood spec -- sure love seeing my name in the top 1-3 dps :)<br><br>Question:  Have been wanting Black Ice (10 Man Maly) for a long time.  Is it better than Jawbone?  Would peeps have a cardiac arrest if I roll?]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Sithra posted : I specced into a Unholy tank spec but tried to keep some DPS talents yesterday.<br><br>It backfired, my dps was 1300 on VoA 25 :( My DPS gear is awful compared to my tank gear but still, was a little ashamed<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Sistine" >eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet&middot;&middot;&middot;=Sistine</A>]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : It's been a long time since I tried, but on a "Greater than 1%" HP target dummy, I think my last parse was 3200 DPS for 10 minutes.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:47:25 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : So what dmg do you do on the target dummy DPS wise in Ebon Hold??]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : Look up Novaus on Feathermoon.<br><br>Rotation is OBx2, HSx2, RP Dump]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[anon posted : Archi<br>Can you plz link your talent tree and tell me what rotation you use??]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[Archivis posted : Glyphs are just about identical.  Minors are... minor and relatively irrelevant (that's an awesome combo of words btw).  Instead of Pestilence, I use Corpse Explosion.<br><br>I don't use pestilence.<br><br>3.1, different story.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:13:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DeathWish posted : Archivis, I'm using your 51/0/20 diseaseless spec -- gotta say I'm liking it a whole lot more than 21/50/0 Frost.  Was on Thaddius last night hitting 15K OB :)  Ran CoT also and I outpaced everyone on overall damage.  Life is good. <br><br>Curious what you are using for Major & Minor Glyphs.<br><br>I have Obliterate, Ghoul, Blood Strike (for Majors)<br>Don't recall for minors,... but I think it's<br>Raise the Dead, Pestilence and Horn of Winter.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[abg posted : I got Grim Toll the other day as well. Respecced to 21/50/0 that day as well (I've bounced back and forth before between that and 51/0/20). Honestly, it's more about the hit than the arp. I wouldn't spec blood just because of the trinket. Do it because it's what you want to do.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:43:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[pwrtoppl posted : back to blood for me, thanks arch for clearing it up<br><br>again, you da man!]]></description>
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