Re: Build it and they will come... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21786668 en Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:51:30 EDT Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:51:30 EDT Re: Build it and they will come... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21792114 fiberguy : what does the cost of providing dial up modem have to do with eliminating it all together to migrate everyone towards broadbandn? If keeping dial up is acceptable, then stop funding the studies on who has and doesn't have broadband.. it's not important. In fact, MUCH of the arguments on BBR should also become worthless as well.

Dial up is dead and needs to be replaced by a national broadband deployment. As I've said in other posts before.. there are certainly providers out there pushing broadband in places where you'd not think they had power and running water. There are no excuses for not getting broadband in to places that they have neglected. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21792114 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:55:00 EDT Re: Build it and they will come... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21791928 patcat88 :
said by fiberguy See Profile :

I think a national broadband plan would also include the eventual near elimination of the dial up call centers turning them, essentially, into the dot matrix printer. (they'll be there, but really a specialty purpose)
Won't work. Running a dialup ISP is practically free. You get an ATM, T1, or SONET line from the telco, with multiple extensions/trunk lines (1 or more phone numbers, multiple incoming simultanous calls). Inside the circuit switches frames is your PPP data. Decode that (done with a router or in software), put on backbone, your done.

No ISP has banks of analog dialup modems anymore. You wouldn't have 56K if the ISP used analog modems. The POTS Digitalizer at your CO that terminates your copper loop is the modem effectivly, and its on a really really long serial port line to the ISP. Most of the dialup ISPs cost is email, newsgroups, webhosting, and tech support.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21791928 Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:28:52 EDT Re: Build it and they will come... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21789111 fiberguy : The article clearly stated "19% of dial-up users say nothing would get them to switch." which is purely B.S. - but, in the spirit of the article, it's not about access.. it's about switching, in this case.

Which honestly, I call B.S. on too... unless someone absolutely loves dial-up, like the classic car, they'd eventually "install indoor plumbing" so to speak.

I think a national broadband plan would also include the eventual near elimination of the dial up call centers turning them, essentially, into the dot matrix printer. (they'll be there, but really a specialty purpose)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21789111 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:32:45 EDT Re: Build it and they will come... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21786668 Hazy Arc : My parents are in the same boat. They'd happily pay for broadband, but it isn't offered. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21786668 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:45:39 EDT Build it and they will come... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21786562 Luwigie : How about we try a real world test? My parents still can't get broadband in any form. They would be willing to pick up DSL or cable for standard prices. Bring it on out!

As land line infrastructure is neglected and broadband prices decrease...people will move.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21786562 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:22:42 EDT