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garmst
join:2000-09-17
New York, NY | 92% is not surprising or unreasonable Cable in general has been in existence so long that the infrastructure (wiring) has had a long time to spread virtually everywhere. Adding 2-way and therefore Internet was just swapping in electronics.
The cable industry serves the poor neighborhoods because the poor CAN afford cable, and the cablecos want to sell. Some of my family members who are on welfare have faster cable Internet than I do (It hasn't helped them find a job....). Verizon is wiring FIOS in Buffalo which is a dying Northeast city, inner city areas included.
There is no need for a BB policy, between DSL, cable, FIOS, growing WiMax, Cellular Wireless you have to work hard to be out of Internet coverage. | |
|  | | Re: 92% is not surprising or unreasonable said by garmst:...between DSL, cable, FIOS, growing WiMax, Cellular Wireless you have to work hard to be out of Internet coverage. Thats just the thing... to some of these people, Cellular Wireless isn't good enough. They want the 20Mbps cable or fibre at their doorstep. Doesn't matter to them that its just flat out not cost effective to wire these networks out in the sticks. Maybe WiMax and LTE will be the answer, but its going to be at least another 7-8 years before these networks are built out into the rural areas. These people are just going to have to be patient. | |
| | | | Re: 92% is not surprising or unreasonable You may be right about Cellular Wireless not being good enough for some of the people and they may need to be patient. But, is it to much for those of us that are resonable to want a resonable pricing structure.
If I would of had Verizons EVDO instead of Alltels EVDO when Verizon first implemented there caps, my monthly bill with overages for the year would of been over $100,000 for the year. Mind you that is for less than 300 GB for the year. Less than a GB a day.
I think you would find most rural Americans are OK waiting for things to come in good time if they could just get a fair price on the services that are avalible to them.
Granted the above example was when Verizon charged $0.49 per MB over 5 GB and now they only charge $0.25 per MB over 5 GB. I still don't see how less than 300 GB of date is worth the price of a new home every 2 or 3 years. It kind of seems predatory to me if not criminal. | |
| | jandar
join:2006-01-16
Middleburg, FL | said by the_ticket :said by garmst:...between DSL, cable, FIOS, growing WiMax, Cellular Wireless you have to work hard to be out of Internet coverage. Thats just the thing... to some of these people, Cellular Wireless isn't good enough. They want the 20Mbps cable or fibre at their doorstep. Doesn't matter to them that its just flat out not cost effective to wire these networks out in the sticks. Maybe WiMax and LTE will be the answer, but its going to be at least another 7-8 years before these networks are built out into the rural areas. These people are just going to have to be patient. And to some, that Wireless is no faster than dialup speed for 4-5 times the cost. | |
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Lazlow
join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO | How is this any different than the telephone was or electricity for that matter? At the time both of those technologies came in they were just luxuries not necessities. We need to support the internet in the same way that we supported those technologies. | |
|  kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
1 edit | said by garmst:Cable in general has been in existence so long that the infrastructure (wiring) has had a long time to spread virtually everywhere. Adding 2-way and therefore Internet was just swapping in electronics. The cable industry serves the poor neighborhoods because the poor CAN afford cable, and the cablecos want to sell. Some of my family members who are on welfare have faster cable Internet than I do (It hasn't helped them find a job....). Verizon is wiring FIOS in Buffalo which is a dying Northeast city, inner city areas included. There is no need for a BB policy, between DSL, cable, FIOS, growing WiMax, Cellular Wireless you have to work hard to be out of Internet coverage. And that's EXACTLY what paid industry shills and totally rotten, corrupt cablecorpses keep spreading.
Thanks God, you guys LOST, BIG TIME - there WILL BE a national policy, it's OVER FOR YOUR MONOPOLIES, FOREVER PRICE-GOUGING and always shrinking bitrates (TV) and trasnfers (Internet).
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said by bicker:Waaaa waaaa waaaa. You just want what you want and don't care to factor in what is right or true. Your perspectives are un-American, and deserve far more ridicule than I'm prepared to pile on them. | |
|  fuziwuziNot born yesterdayPremium
join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA | said by garmst:There is no need for a BB policy, between DSL, cable, FIOS, growing WiMax, Cellular Wireless you have to work hard to be out of Internet coverage. You surely sound like someone in NYC who thinks he knows what the rest of the country is like. I know a lot of people that can't get cable, DSL, fios, nor even a reliable cellphone connection. Even when the cellphone does work, they just recently got a new tower in the county and of course there is no such thing as wimax or even 3G anything. I couldn't even get a EDGE connection when I was there. The most dialup can achieve is 24kbps on a good day.
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| jandar
join:2006-01-16
Middleburg, FL | said by garmst:Cable in general has been in existence so long that the infrastructure (wiring) has had a long time to spread virtually everywhere. Adding 2-way and therefore Internet was just swapping in electronics. The cable industry serves the poor neighborhoods because the poor CAN afford cable, and the cablecos want to sell. Some of my family members who are on welfare have faster cable Internet than I do (It hasn't helped them find a job....). Verizon is wiring FIOS in Buffalo which is a dying Northeast city, inner city areas included. There is no need for a BB policy, between DSL, cable, FIOS, growing WiMax, Cellular Wireless you have to work hard to be out of Internet coverage. My mother lives inside the city of Jacksonville, FL (granted, the city limits is the county limits) and cannot get anything better than dialup.
Clearwire - which launched in Jacksonville has a huge black hole near her.
Comcast - down the road, they would pay through the teeth to extend the coax.
DSL - Only to the new million dollar ranch homes down the street from her. Her lines won't qualify for DSL.
3G - nope, not a tower within miles
EDGE - on a good day, 2 bars worth of signal.
There are about 30 people in her general area that have this issue. These are the people that are grossly overlooked. While we complain about 8mb only, they are STUCK on dialup.Its been this way for years.
Wireless providers/WiMAX/Cable/DSL compete in the same areas, they strive for business from the crowded neighborhoods. Why spend money on building a line for a few homes? They can take that same money and market it to more people and gain more income.
Sad to say, that is the way it goes. Its about profitability for the broadband companies.
Until there is some sort of provider for people like her, they will always be off of the broadband list. | |
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