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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

This article makes several false assertions...

...but the most egregious are that ISPs want to "avoid having to invest in infrastructure upgrades" or do not want to admit "the limitations of their networks."

The fact is that ISPs throttle back bandwidth hogs because they cannot afford to allow users to consume so much bandwidth that they cost the provider more than they are paying. No one can reasonably expect ISPs to operate at a loss. Some ISPs, including myself, pay hundreds of dollars per megabit per month for Internet bandwidth. Can we afford to let P2P suck it all up for nothing? No. If a user wants to saturate a connection with P2P, he or she should expect to pay for the full bandwidth of that connection -- at our wholesale price plus a reasonable markup. Want 2 Mbps of continuous P2P? That's fine, but expect to pay us at least $225 per month. It's only fair; we have to stay in business.


grabeck

join:2003-07-17
Calgary, AB

These are the type of statements I just don't understand. I'm not sure if ISP's "want their cake and eat it to" or not.

You promote your product by marketing 2 things... Speed and Cap! and yet ISP's say it's unfair when users complain that the speed they advertise is not what they are receiving via P2P. Now I'm talking strictly D/L here, when I'm throttled to a faction of my advertised speed to D/L a WoW patch, or even play a game on-line how is this is you say "fair"?

Just a question Super(and Rocky too I guess), Do you refund customers who use only a faction of the bandwidth they are allotted to use every month?

Simple Example:
- I pay for a internet package that allows me 100GB/month
- I use 30GB of the bandwidth
- Another customer pays for the SAME package
- He/She uses 300GB/month

- WE are BOTH restricted the same way and pay the same fees

So ISP's... IS THAT "FAIR"?



fAcEtIOUs
Premium
join:2002-03-03
kudos:4

reply to SuperWISP

quote:
this prevents competitors from offering an unthrottled, superior alternative to Bell's Sympatico service, and it throttles any P2P competitors to Bell's video store
Translation: P2P Competitors really means movie thieves / pirates(oops, have to be politically correct here - copyright infringers)

Imagine Bell wanting to prevent infringers from ruining their business - the unmitigated gall.
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