| Copy protected Fios TV... Would I be right to assume there's no way to bypass the copy protection Fios TV has on all movie channels (HBO, Showtime, etc)??
I have a Samsung DVD-VR375 and in the manual is simply states in the problem/solution section that if "You cannot record a copy protected movie" is displayed it means "You can't record the video since it is protected by copyright." |
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 darciliciousCyber LibrarianPremium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:1
 ·Frontier FiOS
| If the Samsung can use component inputs, you can use component out of the STB to record from the STB to the recording device.
I can record any channel from FiOS this way with my HAVA (like a slinglox)though it's not full HD resolution (a limitation of the HAVA not the cable connection). |
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Mark F
join:2007-08-01
Fort Wayne, IN | reply to SincereT
A quick check online shows that some people have had no problems with the VR 375, while others have complained about problems recording movies from premium channels. And, copying tapes, too. Go to Newegg.com and type in "Samsung VR375" and read the reviews and how others have dealt with this problem.
I have a Samsung TR520, which cost almost $300 when new, and while it has no built-in VCR or DVD upconversion, I've never had a problem recording from any channel, from the DVR or from my VCR. I can't, however, copy VHS and DVD movies I've bought. Those have copy protection and can't be copied.
Mark F |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:5
·Frontier FiOS
| said by Mark F:I have a Samsung TR520, which cost almost $300 when new, and while it has no built-in VCR or DVD upconversion, I've never had a problem recording from any channel, from the DVR or from my VCR. I can't, however, copy VHS and DVD movies I've bought. Those have copy protection and can't be copied. The "old" copy protection on VHS and DVDs was Macrovision. Macrovision works by sending pulses in the off-screen scan lines. The automatic gain control in VCRs or DVD recorders try to compensate for the fluctuations caused by the pulses, resulting in a picture who's brightness changes rapidly in order to compensate, rendering a virtually unwatchable picture.
There are devices available that attempt to clean up the analog signal. The macrovision not only affects the ability to copy the video, but also home theater line doublers, comb filters, and other more advanced equipment.
The other method to bypass the restriction is to go old school. "Modern" VCRs are required to have the AGC circuitry that enables Microvision to be possible. However many older VCRs don't have Microvision. Running the signal through an older VCR can effectively disable the pulses, allowing the signal to be recorded. |
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 Vamp9190Premium
join:2002-02-11
Chantilly, VA
kudos:1 | reply to SincereT
»www.xdimax.com/grex/grex.html
A Grex will do it. Obviously for backing up your VHS collection or watching movies for personal use, not for violating any copyrights, etc.
Never tried one myself, so search for reviews to see how satisfied people have been with the results. |
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I have owned literally dozens of DVD recorders (they are a dime a dozen) and only had one that gave me a problem recording copy protected stuff. It was a Philips recorder. Dish Network blocked the recording of copy protected stuff even on the old RCA (composite cables). I ended up buying a box online that removed the fading in and out of my recordings and cleaned up the videos. It worked like a charm. I won't give specifics. Do your own research elsewhere. I have two different recorders now (a Samsung and Toshiba) and record off both DirecTV and FIOS all the time without a problem.
Somebody mentioned that you won't maintain the HD. Of course you won't. Even though component cables are analog HD, and composite is analog SD (people often mix up these two cable types on here and other sites), it doesn't matter what you use. If you are recording to DVD-R or DVD+R it is SD only anyway. Unless you have an HD burner like a Bluray burner, you are only going to get SD no matter what cables you use. For me, I am OK with that because a good recorder will at least maintain the aspect ratio and still looks OK when you go watch the archive later. So, if you record something off HBO HD, it records in SD but you still have the 16x9. Even on a SD TV, an HD signal with the black bars looks better in most circumstances than an SD signal. So you will be able to watch that recording on any decent DVD player and it will be 16x9 SD. Much better than the crap original SD of HBO in SD being recorded.
DVD burners are pretty cheap these days. You can get one for less than $100 that will do the job and you won't need the filter. It may be time for you to replace that aging DVD recorder. Just a thought. |
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To openly discuss techniques and hardware on how to defeat copy write protecting seem wrong to me. |
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