 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to fifty nine
Re: Copper? what Copper? said by fifty nine:said by gopnick:No joke. Copper has no place in the future last miles of telephone and Internet networks. The current copper network has three things that FiOS doesn't: - Open access by competitive providers - Widespread availability - Long term availability during a power outage. 8 hours UPS won't work if power is out for 3+ days, as it is around here after a big ice storm or maybe down South where there are hurricanes. Until FiOS has all of the above, the copper needs to be maintained. Telephone subscribers and taxpayers have paid for the copper network. It needs to be maintained until everyone has fiber. I generally agree with your statement. However, I don't think Verizon should be responsible for maintaining it if FiOS has been accepted by the local PUC as an approved replacement for POTS and they are actively deploying it.
If a CLEC wants to come in and maintain it, that should be their right to do so, but maintenance of the copper plant shouldn't be a "Verizon only" burden any longer since they have a clear path to FiOS. I think Verizon should sell the copper plant to someone like a CLEC in areas where fiber is deployed. |
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wrad
join:2003-09-11
Fort Pierce, FL | Had copper for forty-years, until learning The Fone Company batteries die after a day without power. Great moment in my life to tell TFP to take their wire and ... |
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said by Matt:If a CLEC wants to come in and maintain it, that should be their right to do so, but maintenance of the copper plant shouldn't be a "Verizon only" burden any longer since they have a clear path to FiOS. I think Verizon should sell the copper plant to someone like a CLEC in areas where fiber is deployed. I'm fairly sure that Covad and other DSL providers are paying AT&T (and/or Verizon) a fee for their "Line Sharing" of the last mile copper wire to my house.  |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by Tobester:I'm fairly sure that Covad and other DSL providers are paying AT&T (and/or Verizon) a fee for their "Line Sharing" of the last mile copper wire to my house. I'm not sure what that has to do with my point, which is that if Verizon wants to dump their copper plant and move resources to FiOS, they should be allowed to do so. It's not Verizon's responsibility to keep a CLEC in business. (And before I'm mobbed by the masses here, I am glad the CLECs are around and wish there was more competition.) |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to Matt
I don't believe the PUC has approved it as a replacement. That would require/allow regulation of the service, and I don't believe it is. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
However, last I checked, it was not a regulated utility which had been my argument.. if FiOS is to "replace" the copper service, then I believe it should also be subject to the same rules and regulations AND open access as their copper plant is.. I also think it's a dangerous move to allow an incumbent to abandon a regulated life line service with out either turning it over to another party, selling and divesting it 100% for their FiOS operation, an accepting FiOS be regulated.
Verizon owns the copper plant. By other providers leasing lines for their own service, they ARE paying for maintenance of the plant with those fees. Anything outside that money paid absolutely needs to remain the responsibility of Verizon to maintain. However, Verizon gets away with murder when it comes to not maintaining their copper plant. I can name, easily, addresses from coast to coast where Verizon has flat out refused to repair their service, rather, handing the home owner a cell phone as a replacement for land line services.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | reply to Matt
As the incumbent provider, they absolutely are required to maintain plant/services to the community they serve. They can't simply abandon their plant and pick and chose who/where they will service. |
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