karlmarx
join:2006-09-18
iraq
 ·Fairpoint Communic..
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Re: Uhh, who cares about the damn soap?
Well, in your scenario, you are the communist
1 person is smart
1 person is not!
We are all basically capitalist here. and the GOAL of capitalism is to get the MOST amount of goods, for the LEAST amount of cost. So, if you are PAYING for something you can get for free, by definition, you are not a capitalist, thus, you must be a commie!
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
1 edit | said by karlmarx  :Well, in your scenario, you are the communist 1 person is smart 1 person is not! We are all basically capitalist here. and the GOAL of capitalism is to get the MOST amount of goods, for the LEAST amount of cost. So, if you are PAYING for something you can get for free, by definition, you are not a capitalist, thus, you must be a commie! I'm the communist? YOU people are the ones that expect everything handed out them for free. that's communism. |
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mod_wastrel
join:2008-03-28
 ·magicjack.com
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said by karlmarx :...if you are PAYING for something you can get for free, by definition, you are not a capitalist, thus, you must be a commie! Translation:
If you are not paying for something because you took it for free, by definition, you are still a thief.
But as far as I'm concerned, that's between you and your conscience. Word games don't change the facts. (And just to be clear, I'm extremely anti-RIAA; but I'm even more so pro-honesty. Barring a matter of actual survival, stealing anything just makes you a POS. Just because the RIAA is also a POS doesn't make the thief any less a POS. Stealing from a thief (such as the RIAA) may be fair, but it's not honest. Steal all you want to, but just "man up" and admit it... at least to yourself.) |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| said by mod_wastrel :If you are not paying for something because you took it for free, by definition, you are still a thief. And I say if you're exploiting artists, lying about statistics and manipulating the market you're a thief. Here's a tip: the internet has made the middle-men and producers absolutely useless, and they're the ones who have been exploiting artists and shoving crap like the spice girls and boy-bands down our throats. Bands don't make money from CD sales or radio-play, that's just publicity for them so they can sell merchandise and seats in stadiums. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| said by james :said by mod_wastrel :If you are not paying for something because you took it for free, by definition, you are still a thief. And I say if you're exploiting artists, lying about statistics and manipulating the market you're a thief. Here's a tip: the internet has made the middle-men and producers absolutely useless, and they're the ones who have been exploiting artists and shoving crap like the spice girls and boy-bands down our throats. Bands don't make money from CD sales or radio-play, that's just publicity for them so they can sell merchandise and seats in stadiums. So you're stealing for the good of the poor maligned artists being screwed over by the evil record labels? How noble of you. Pardon me if I don't believe you steal out of philithropic motives.
I mean how dare the labels spend millions of their dollars producing and promoting these artists and giving them millions of $ in advance with only small % chance of that investment actually returning results then have the balls to asked to be reimbursed and perhaps take a profit too? Those devils! |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| said by BF69 :I mean how dare the labels spend millions of their dollars producing and promoting these artists and giving them millions of $ in advance with only small % chance of that investment actually returning results then have the balls to asked to be reimbursed and perhaps take a profit too? Those devils! 99.9% of artists don't get "millions of $ in advance", and I guarantee the ones that do are a sure thing as far as the producers getting paid goes.
Piracy is as "bad" for artists as getting played on the radio. It's free and worldwide publicity (something the labels could never provide for the artists)! 90% of the bands I listen to I've heard of from being used in flash animations, internet radio and music download sites without the permission of the artist. But without that Piracy I wouldnt like or even know about any of those bands, so when they came to town I wouldn't buy tickets to their concert, I wouldnt order a tshirt from their website, I wouldn't order a CD from them even though I already have their songs on my computer because I want a better quality sound, I wouldn't buy posters... etc etc etc.
Bands used to have to PAY to get that kind of exposure, now they get it for free and the middle-men who did nothing but put up walls and act as gate-keepers and took the biggest cut of the pie are crying and trying to dig their way out of the grave they made for themselves by screwing artists and consumers for decades. GOOD F-ING RIDDANCE. |
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