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 christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | typical government The government has no business at all spending tax dollars on providing broadband. Every citizen of the country has access to the internet. At least to the level of dial-up. Broadband is not needed. Broadband is a luxury not a necessity. There isn't one thing that broadband offers that can't be done on dial-up; just slower. Being able to play games or stream music and videos is not the help that poor people need. With the size of the debt and all the bail outs to try and save jobs/savings (Another mistake); they definitely don't need to be spending more. Of course, a stimulus bill is just an excuse for politician to find pork projects to spend money on. And the Net neutrality issue is another POS. As long as people are conned into believing that all traffic on the internet should be treated equal and compete evenly, technology will stall and time sensitive services will continue to suffer. But then there are those who believe that the answer is more bandwidth. If packets were allowed to be prioritized based on CONTENT, billions of dollars wouldn't need to be spent on providing 50mb service to customers. Between prioritization, different protocols, different transport muxing, and other technologies, people could do all the streaming, gaming, downloading, etc... that they'd want with using a lot less bandwidth than they use now. But, because this technology isn't allowed to evolve because of the net neutrality crowd, the answer is to just keep adding bandwidth which means a lot more money. And now we're going to use our tax dollars to give a luxury to the poor. Yea, good start for this new administration. | |
|  | | Re: typical government U make me laugh. Really it's 2009 and USA is falling farther and farther behind on products and services and jobs; Jobs that COULD be created by creating a new economic infrastructure market. You are 10yrs behind buddy. Dialup? Get serious, maybe we should take away the roads going into Cheyenne, WY that was funded by taxpayer money, maybe we should pull sanitation and electricity because you know, back in 1900s it was a luxury. The internet TODAY is more than luxury, it IS a utility and informational resource, and the whole idea of the internet is equal access to all. The internet is capable of bringing people together and sharing ideas, and creating new services based on those ideas. We are being held back in the stone age by your same kind of thinking. Meanwhile other countries aer moving ahead. Some patriot you are, only thinking of yourself. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Maybe you can dialup to youtube and view the JFK video? | |
| | christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | Re: typical government You didn't hear me say that the internet isn't important. The fact is, broadband doesn't need to be funded by the government. I've lived in socialist countries. It sucks. The government is too involved as it is. Using tax dollars for broadband is a crime when people don't have health care; losing their jobs; etc... I'm not a big fan of the government in many of those areas either; but if it's a choice, broadband is at the bottom of the list. The GOVERNMENT spending tax dollars to add broadband will do nothing to fix the economy or anything else. Internet is a necessity. Broadband is a luxury. Roads are necessities. U say I make you laugh? Your comments make me shake my head. You are obviously incapable of looking at a topic without it becoming personal to you. If you can't see the difference between roads, electricity, internet, broadband, government funded, private industry, etc... then you are hopeless. Can't believe that I've wasted 3 minutes responding to your ignorance. | |
| | | | | Re: typical government The internet is an electronic road, or are you ok with having dirt gravel in downtown Cheyenne as an acceptible standard for a road?
"If you can't see the difference between roads, electricity, internet, broadband."
And if you can't tell the different between socialist and socialized capitalism I'm sorry for you. Yes we live in a free market that is governed by rules to help protect people that otherwise would have no protection. It's called "socialized capitalism", look it up via dialup, and let's see if 56k is acceptable watching informational video. HELLO mcfly "Idon'twanttheUSAtobeaheadtechnologically "56K was fine back in 1984 but not in 2009.
By spurring a national broadband infrastructure, you help CREATE jobs by allowing public and private to work together.
You create a NEW market instead of have one monopolized and controlled by those that own the infrastructure now. You think the telcos would ever build on their own? No, they cherry pick neighborhoods and income levels, they could give a rats ass for rural or poor inner city folks.
The National highway systems built after the war BOOSTED the economy by allowing develiopment into towns/cities otherwise that would have been underserved.
If it's ok to go to war and spend millions in Iraq and Afghanistan, building THEIR infrastructure, then turn around saying it's not ok to build right here in USA? You got to be kidding me? | |
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Here's text from your own words christcorp:
"So, the bottom line is; If you are at 1.5mb service and are on a remote dslam; and don't live in a politically/economically preferred area such as Highland Ranch; then there's a really good chance that you will be stuck at whatever max bandwidth you have now."
You see, there is a market for people that want higher speed access, but can't because the telcos overlook you if you are not in a "politically/economically preferred area", and there lies in the problem. If there was a national broadband link, then you would be able to get faster speeds and have the choice from many different provides, not just one or two. | |
| | christcorpPremium
join:2001-05-21
Cheyenne, WY
kudos:1 | Re: typical government We're talking about the difference in NEED and WANT. Sorry; but all the things that a person NEEDS to do on the internet doesn't NEED to be done on broadband. And my 1 and only point here; and I WON'T discuss other points; is that the GOVERNMENT doesn't need to be taking BILLIONS of tax payer dollars to build broadband access to every citizen in the country. It DOESN'T create significant amount of jobs or any other revenue producing. The market produces broadband for the high use areas where businesses and such exist. The areas that a government (Tax payer) financed system would benefit would be the common residential type customers. That doesn't create any revenue. And those people aren't being deprived because they don't have broadband. All their "NEEDS"; e.g. job search, online school, email, posting resumes, etc... can be done at ANY LEVEL of internet speed available. I'm not in favor of a lot of government involvement. Including national health care and a number of other Socialist programs. However; if the government is going to spend tax dollars on such things, at least prioritize it so there's a legitimate debate. I.e fix the health care, homeless, social security, etc... first. Why are billions instead going to be spent on Broadband, national endowment of the arts, carbon footprint studies, D.C. national Mall, smithsonian, etc... | |
| | | | | Re: typical government My only point is, you fail to see the need because you can't see farther than now.
By that thinking, we also dump the 17 billion a year NASA program, let other countries find advanced technology and materials, dump all libraries because that is a luxury not a need, anyone can just buy their own books, we should dump public parks and pools since they could play in their backyard, dump museums, because dinosaur bones were created by the devil. Dump public sanitation, because you can just use an outhouse and who needs plumbers? Dump public roads, because Cheyenne,WY is not paying enough taxes anyway, they can get by with dirt roads, don't give tax breaks to Churches, since they don't contribute taxwise, they should pay like the rest of us, discontinue public hospitals, that's a luxury not a need.
Have you ever thought that the national broadband highway could be funded via monthly tolls? If you build the national broadband starting in high penetration areas, anyone that uses the national broadband, pay a $5.00 flat monthly access charge, and that should be enough to develop/maintain the infrastructure slowly. Because the demand for broadband is so great, the funds from the $5.00 monthly rate could go towards building out other communities and towns. Soon if everyone has broadband, the tax would flow, and can go to other programs like Nasa, museums, parks, etc.
You need to think outside the box, there is more than way to fund a project. It can be started by donations from the private technology sector who have a bigger need for fat pipes. | |
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