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3 edits | said by ninjatutle :Only the thieves should be worried. Excellent point. You are smart to think about it this way. Only thieves who are the majority of the internet users in the USA need be worried.
Those with tightly locked down wireless who do not engage in copyright infringement have nothing to worry about in most cases.
False positives don't seem to be likely.
There is very little potential for abuse of this system.
Or it could all go terribly wrong and turn into chaos.
Either way it will be interesting to watch. |
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| reply to ninjatutle All someone would have to do is wrongfully send you 3 DMCA takedown notices and your offline
and that someone could just not like you, be randomly sending fake notices, or be a mentaly incompetent RIAA lawyer
and bam your offline and they'll never hear your side unless you pay crazy amounts to a lawyer and hope to win |
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  bender Bite my shiny metal ass Premium join:2005-03-19 Evanston, IL clubs: 1 edit | reply to ninjatutle ---EDITED SO I DON'T GET BANNED FROM BBR--- |
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  funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Washington, DC
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| reply to ninjatutle said by ninjatutle :Only the thieves should be worried. We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change.
PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ... -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL ... Should we pay those who are "too big to fail" more money to ensure they stay that way? ... |
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| reply to CanadianIron said by CanadianIron :said by ninjatutle :Only the thieves should be worried. Excellent point. You are smart to think about it this way. Only thieves who are the majority of the internet users in the USA need be worried. Thieves are not the majority force on the internet. All one has to do is look at the reasoning behind bandwidth caps to realize that. |
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| reply to funchords said by funchords :said by ninjatutle :Only the thieves should be worried. We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change. PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ... ... an image from the net in your cache, some BS MySpace page music file that you just KNOW they have the right to use.
Thing is, so do most of the "P2P is teh devil" posters here.
Bad! Bad pirates!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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| reply to Matt said by Matt :said by CanadianIron :said by ninjatutle :Only the thieves should be worried. Excellent point. You are smart to think about it this way. Only thieves who are the majority of the internet users in the USA need be worried. Thieves are not the majority force on the internet. All one has to do is look at the reasoning behind bandwidth caps to realize that. Don;t waste the energy to type. That is ninjaturtle's usual post. -- "So, Lone Starr, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb."
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| said by ptrowski :Don;t waste the energy to type. That is ninjaturtle's usual post. Actually it's been too long -- and I think he skipped a thread, too -- in this case his old troll is also on topic. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon -- KJ7RL ... Should we pay those who are "too big to fail" more money to ensure they stay that way? ... |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
1 edit | reply to dadkins said by dadkins :said by funchords :said by ninjatutle :Only the thieves should be worried. We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change. PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ... ... an image from the net in your cache, some BS MySpace page music file that you just KNOW they have the right to use. Correct! Even if your browser graces the pages of YOUTUBE, you are a thief. -- There is no love untouched by hate No unity without discord There is no courage without fear There is no peace without a war There is no wisdom without regret No admiration without scorn
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
1 edit | reply to hopeflicker Better yet!
DSLreports is hosting Illegal, copyright material i.e. mickey mouse image
Justin now has 1 strike. 2 more and DSLreports will be off line.
Furthermore, if you can see the MM image, you too, have just download illegal material. Strike 1 for you also. |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA 1 edit | reply to hopeflicker dupe |
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| reply to ninjatutle said by ninjatutle :I dunthinkso umm, yes. when you view any youtube page, you are downloading copyright content. Youtube is full of copyright content. |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
| said by ninjatutle :Now you're just talking out of your You are in denial.
Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube? Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it? Have you ever watch a trailer there?
if so, you too are a thief. And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image. -- There is no love untouched by hate No unity without discord There is no courage without fear There is no peace without a war There is no wisdom without regret No admiration without scorn
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| said by hopeflicker :said by ninjatutle :Now you're just talking out of your You are in denial. Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube? Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it? Have you ever watch a trailer there? if so, you too are a thief. And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image. YouTube hosts the material, not you. That is why THEY receive the DMCA Takedown notice. With a torrent file, no one hosts the content, so they go after the users who actually download the file.
Also, copyright infringement has to be willful. I had no idea that Mickey Mouse image was there and I could easily prove in a court of law that I never intended to download it. You, on the other hand, would be the one in trouble, not DSLReports or anyone else who viewed it. |
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  hopeflicker Capitalism breeds greed Premium join:2003-04-03 Long Beach, CA
| said by Matt :said by hopeflicker :said by ninjatutle :Now you're just talking out of your You are in denial. Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube? Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it? Have you ever watch a trailer there? if so, you too are a thief. And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image. YouTube hosts the material, not you. That is why THEY receive the DMCA Takedown notice. With a torrent file, no one hosts the content, so they go after the users who actually download the file. Also, copyright infringement has to be willful. I had no idea that Mickey Mouse image was there and I could easily prove in a court of law that I never intended to download it. You, on the other hand, would be the one in trouble, not DSLReports or anyone else who viewed it. yes, youtube does host, but once you visit the site you are downloading copyright material. Yes, you are not intentionally doing it but you are. And you definitely are if you watch the videos.
If Justin fails to remove the image, then yes, DSLr is hosting pirated content.
My point: Copyrighted content is everywhere on the net, it's in your IM's, your email, your favorite forum/blog etc.
Where do you draw the line if you are talking sides with the **AA's?
You say im a thief if i download the DVD screener of the new Batman but you have no problem if i download a Mickey Mouse png file.
Where does it end? -- There is no love untouched by hate No unity without discord There is no courage without fear There is no peace without a war There is no wisdom without regret No admiration without scorn
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| reply to funchords Aren't there distros out there that are completely covered under the GPL or similar licenses? Not to say that you couldn't add copyrighted software if you wanted to, but still... -- "2 Strangers + 1 20 minute ceremony + $50 + 10 shots of tequila = Holy Matrimony and 1st Class Protections Under the Law
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| reply to bender said by bender :---EDITED SO I DON'T GET BANNED FROM BBR--- It doesn't show as edited.. |
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