Topic 'Whats the problem?' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Whats-the-problem-21821263 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:45:19 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:45:19 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21826304
Mine came with Amarok which plays MP3.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21826304 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:21:50 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21825356 --
[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21825356 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 00:29:05 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21825191
OH and I have made backups before!

Gitmo here I come!
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21825191 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:47:02 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21825175 said by Matt:

Thieves are not the majority force on the internet. All one has to do is look at the reasoning behind bandwidth caps to realize that.Change it to Corporate thieves and it becomes close to the truth :D
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[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21824698 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:06:33 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21824364 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21824364 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:08:55 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21823928
Take a look: »bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/0···notices/
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... Should we pay those who are "too big to fail" more money to ensure they stay that way? ...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21823928 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:53:38 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21823890 in that case do educate yourself on what DMCA notice rules are

and bear in mind sending off a fake DMCA notice is the same as lieing under oath.

Whoever signs the DMCA does so "under penalty of perjury" like so:

I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21823890 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:44:55 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21823089 said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
Not true the article also states that AT&T is experimenting with caps. No doubt an attempt to force those of us who REFUSE U-VERSE in favor of vanilla DSL and DirecTV/DISH I watch a lot of VOD from SmithsonianHD, MGMHD, SONYHD and others. Because HD content is larger I do have the ELITE Teir which lately has been experiencing more slow downs.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21823089 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:47:27 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822847 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822847 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:16:57 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822823 said by Matt:

said by CanadianIron:

said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
Excellent point. You are smart to think about it this way. Only thieves who are the majority of the internet users in the USA need be worried.
Thieves are not the majority force on the internet. All one has to do is look at the reasoning behind bandwidth caps to realize that.
The reasoning behind bandwidth caps, is poorly implemented network infrastructure. You don't sell a product/service if you cannot supply it. Instead of upping speed tiers, maybe just reduce the amount of speed, and wait until the last mile can sustain, this added 'usage'.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822823 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:07:52 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822777
Pirates who are savvy, will not care about Caps/Enforcement on the ISP level, because it doesnt effect them 1 iota.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822777 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:01:41 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822742 ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822742 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:56:37 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822675 said by hopeflicker:

Better yet!

DSLreports is hosting Illegal, copyright material i.e. mickey mouse image

Justin now has 1 strike. 2 more and DSLreports will be off line.

Furthermore, if you can see the MM image, you too, have just download illegal material. Strike 1 for you also.
"Fair Use"?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822675 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:48:33 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822672 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822672 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:47:53 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822656 said by John McClane:

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"2 Strangers + 1 20 minute ceremony + $50 + 10 shots of tequila = Holy Matrimony and 1st Class Protections Under the Law… now that’s crazy!"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822633 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:41:50 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822262 said by Matt:

said by hopeflicker:

said by ninjatutle:

Now you're just talking out of your
You are in denial.

Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube?
Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it?
Have you ever watch a trailer there?

if so, you too are a thief.
And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image.
YouTube hosts the material, not you. That is why THEY receive the DMCA Takedown notice. With a torrent file, no one hosts the content, so they go after the users who actually download the file.

Also, copyright infringement has to be willful. I had no idea that Mickey Mouse image was there and I could easily prove in a court of law that I never intended to download it. You, on the other hand, would be the one in trouble, not DSLReports or anyone else who viewed it.
yes, youtube does host, but once you visit the site you are downloading copyright material. Yes, you are not intentionally doing it but you are. And you definitely are if you watch the videos.

If Justin fails to remove the image, then yes, DSLr is hosting pirated content.

My point: Copyrighted content is everywhere on the net, it's in your IM's, your email, your favorite forum/blog etc.

Where do you draw the line if you are talking sides with the **AA's?

You say im a thief if i download the DVD screener of the new Batman but you have no problem if i download a Mickey Mouse png file.

Where does it end?
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822262 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:49:03 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822151 said by hopeflicker:

said by ninjatutle:

Now you're just talking out of your
You are in denial.

Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube?
Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it?
Have you ever watch a trailer there?

if so, you too are a thief.
And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image.
YouTube hosts the material, not you. That is why THEY receive the DMCA Takedown notice. With a torrent file, no one hosts the content, so they go after the users who actually download the file.

Also, copyright infringement has to be willful. I had no idea that Mickey Mouse image was there and I could easily prove in a court of law that I never intended to download it. You, on the other hand, would be the one in trouble, not DSLReports or anyone else who viewed it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822151 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:35:35 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822083 said by ninjatutle:

Now you're just talking out of your
You are in denial.

Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube?
Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it?
Have you ever watch a trailer there?

if so, you too are a thief.
And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image.
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There is no peace without a war
There is no wisdom without regret
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I dunthinkso :uhh:
umm, yes. when you view any youtube page, you are downloading copyright content. Youtube is full of copyright content. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21822023 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:18:32 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821989 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821989 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:40 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821987
DSLreports is hosting Illegal, copyright material i.e. mickey mouse image

Justin now has 1 strike. 2 more and DSLreports will be off line.

Furthermore, if you can see the MM image, you too, have just download illegal material. Strike 1 for you also.
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821987 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:14:32 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821945 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821945 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:10:00 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821937 said by dadkins:

said by funchords:

said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change.

PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ...
... an image from the net in your cache, some BS MySpace page music file that you just KNOW they have the right to use.

Correct! Even if your browser graces the pages of YOUTUBE, you are a thief.
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Don;t waste the energy to type. That is ninjaturtle's usual post.
Actually it's been too long -- and I think he skipped a thread, too :) -- in this case his old troll is also on topic.
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said by CanadianIron:

said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
Excellent point. You are smart to think about it this way. Only thieves who are the majority of the internet users in the USA need be worried.
Thieves are not the majority force on the internet. All one has to do is look at the reasoning behind bandwidth caps to realize that.
Don;t waste the energy to type. That is ninjaturtle's usual post.
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said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change.

PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ...
... an image from the net in your cache, some BS MySpace page music file that you just KNOW they have the right to use.

Thing is, so do most of the "P2P is teh devil" posters here.

Bad! Bad pirates! :D
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said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
Excellent point. You are smart to think about it this way. Only thieves who are the majority of the internet users in the USA need be worried.
Thieves are not the majority force on the internet. All one has to do is look at the reasoning behind bandwidth caps to realize that.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821456 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:59:01 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821343 said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change.

PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ...
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and that someone could just not like you, be randomly sending fake notices, or be a mentaly incompetent RIAA lawyer

and bam your offline and they'll never hear your side unless you pay crazy amounts to a lawyer and hope to win]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821331 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:42:47 EDT Re: Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821321 said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
Excellent point. You are smart to think about it this way. Only thieves who are the majority of the internet users in the USA need be worried.

Those with tightly locked down wireless who do not engage in copyright infringement have nothing to worry about in most cases.

False positives don't seem to be likely.

There is very little potential for abuse of this system.

Or it could all go terribly wrong and turn into chaos.

Either way it will be interesting to watch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-the-problem-21821321 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:41:12 EDT Whats the problem? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Whats-the-problem-21821263 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Whats-the-problem-21821263 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:33:40 EDT