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funchords
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reply to ninjatutle

Re: Whats the problem?

said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change.

PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ...
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dadkins
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said by funchords:

said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change.

PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ...
... an image from the net in your cache, some BS MySpace page music file that you just KNOW they have the right to use.

Thing is, so do most of the "P2P is teh devil" posters here.

Bad! Bad pirates!
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hopeflicker
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said by dadkins:

said by funchords:

said by ninjatutle:

Only the thieves should be worried.
We're all thieves in the copyright act -- it's unavoidable! It needs to change.

PS: I'm sure I'm a "thief" right now. I'm using Linux and I'm sure that I've got something on here that violates someone's copyright. Some font, some codec, something ...
... an image from the net in your cache, some BS MySpace page music file that you just KNOW they have the right to use.

Correct! Even if your browser graces the pages of YOUTUBE, you are a thief.
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No unity without discord
There is no courage without fear
There is no peace without a war
There is no wisdom without regret
No admiration without scorn


ninjatutle
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I dunthinkso



hopeflicker
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reply to hopeflicker

Better yet!

DSLreports is hosting Illegal, copyright material i.e. mickey mouse image

Justin now has 1 strike. 2 more and DSLreports will be off line.

Furthermore, if you can see the MM image, you too, have just download illegal material. Strike 1 for you also.


hopeflicker
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dupe



hopeflicker
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reply to ninjatutle

said by ninjatutle:

I dunthinkso
umm, yes. when you view any youtube page, you are downloading copyright content. Youtube is full of copyright content.


ninjatutle
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Now you're just talking out of your



hopeflicker
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said by ninjatutle:

Now you're just talking out of your
You are in denial.

Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube?
Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it?
Have you ever watch a trailer there?

if so, you too are a thief.
And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image.
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There is no peace without a war
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Matt
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said by hopeflicker:

said by ninjatutle:

Now you're just talking out of your
You are in denial.

Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube?
Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it?
Have you ever watch a trailer there?

if so, you too are a thief.
And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image.
YouTube hosts the material, not you. That is why THEY receive the DMCA Takedown notice. With a torrent file, no one hosts the content, so they go after the users who actually download the file.

Also, copyright infringement has to be willful. I had no idea that Mickey Mouse image was there and I could easily prove in a court of law that I never intended to download it. You, on the other hand, would be the one in trouble, not DSLReports or anyone else who viewed it.


hopeflicker
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said by Matt:

said by hopeflicker:

said by ninjatutle:

Now you're just talking out of your
You are in denial.

Have you ever watch a music video at Youtube?
Have you ever watch a home made video with music in it?
Have you ever watch a trailer there?

if so, you too are a thief.
And i'll assume you saw the mickey mouse image.
YouTube hosts the material, not you. That is why THEY receive the DMCA Takedown notice. With a torrent file, no one hosts the content, so they go after the users who actually download the file.

Also, copyright infringement has to be willful. I had no idea that Mickey Mouse image was there and I could easily prove in a court of law that I never intended to download it. You, on the other hand, would be the one in trouble, not DSLReports or anyone else who viewed it.
yes, youtube does host, but once you visit the site you are downloading copyright material. Yes, you are not intentionally doing it but you are. And you definitely are if you watch the videos.

If Justin fails to remove the image, then yes, DSLr is hosting pirated content.

My point: Copyrighted content is everywhere on the net, it's in your IM's, your email, your favorite forum/blog etc.

Where do you draw the line if you are talking sides with the **AA's?

You say im a thief if i download the DVD screener of the new Batman but you have no problem if i download a Mickey Mouse png file.

Where does it end?
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There is no peace without a war
There is no wisdom without regret
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Corydon
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reply to funchords
Aren't there distros out there that are completely covered under the GPL or similar licenses? Not to say that you couldn't add copyrighted software if you wanted to, but still...
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AVD
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Onion, NJ

reply to hopeflicker

said by hopeflicker:

Better yet!

DSLreports is hosting Illegal, copyright material i.e. mickey mouse image

Justin now has 1 strike. 2 more and DSLreports will be off line.

Furthermore, if you can see the MM image, you too, have just download illegal material. Strike 1 for you also.
"Fair Use"?


DarkLogix
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Raven

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reply to Corydon
Just because the entire distro is GPL doesn't mean that it doesn't break any rules. For example, you can play mp3s with gpl'ed software, but the MP3 container itself is patented, and shipping your linux distro with mp3 playback enabled without paying royalties is illegal. This is why Ubuntu ships with no mp3 playback support by default, I believe.



texasrobanon

@sbcglobal.net

reply to DarkLogix
Is that a Captcha or a Pollock? Both copyrighted I suppose.



KrK
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reply to funchords
I know I'm accused of being a thief.... I'll watch TV shows and (Gasp!) I'll *skip* the commercials!

OH and I have made backups before!

Gitmo here I come!
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Kearnstd
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sir drop the Fast Forward button and come out with your hands up.
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fifty nine

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reply to Raven
It doesn't?

Mine came with Amarok which plays MP3.


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