Topic 'Re: Are Things Resolved?' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21826795 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:09:51 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:09:51 EDT Re: Are Things Resolved? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21829643 said by SteveCon:

The one where they told everyone that would listen that they'd be hiring (no mention of layoffs). You maintained that the 1000 hires (your numbers) negates the 56 jobs lost. They are lying by omission.

How many jobs lost would make a difference, 100? 200? 1000?
Actually the 1000 "new" jobs were not "his numbers", they come from the last line of the posting.

Assuming the 1000 "new" jobs were actually created then 1000-56= 944. As to lying by omission maybe that only appears to be true by the same union logic coming from the linked WCAX article. The "dozens" add up to 34 jobs and the jobs were never done by the union or within Verizon in the first place. The end result, nothing changes but a net positive of 944 jobs (if you believe they added 1000 jobs which I don't based on the numbers from otter below).

Personally I don't know why the legacy folks weren't given the opportunity to crosstrain and keep their jobs, unless the pay between what they were getting and what they would get given their experience in the other department would be less.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21829643 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:33:31 EDT Re: Are Things Resolved? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21829084
How many jobs lost would make a difference, 100? 200? 1000?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21829084 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:01:07 EDT Re: Are Things Resolved? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21828874 said by SteveCon:

So it's just a "little lie" and that makes it ok?? How big does the number have to grow before you're outraged? Where was the lie?
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21828874 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:27:29 EDT Re: Are Things Resolved? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21828823 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Are-Things-Resolved-21828823 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:19:02 EDT Are Things Resolved? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Are-Things-Resolved-21826795 quote:
... unions were concerned that the telco wouldn't keep its promise to improve service, add jobs and broaden access to high speed internet. ... The company laid off 56 employees who worked on their legacy networks, though they hired almost 1,000 for the New England transition.

Well there were some issues with 911, but if Fairpoint expanded high speed internet service, then I would say there's no real problem given that "they hired almost 1,000 ..."
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Are-Things-Resolved-21826795 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:49:56 EDT