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kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

reply to memeiiioweyoutwo

Re: H1B's

said by memeiiioweyoutwo :

I agree with that.. After shipping these jobs off to places like India where a call center rep makes about 60 dollars a week they bring the jobs back and hire H1B's at 8.50 per hour rather than a native english speaking American at 13.00 dollars an hour. The results are similar.

I worked at Cisco back in 97 to 2001 in San Jose Ca. and there were more indian people on H1B status than any other nationality.

LOL. What a fool you are. Those H1B people don't work in a call center...they are engineers and developers and scientists.

this country doesn't produce people with skill and good work ethics any more...so we import them from a country that has plenty of them, but few opportunities.

A company can't just hire H1B people because it feels like it...it has to prove that the need cannot be met with workers already in this country.

mlcarson

join:2001-09-20
Las Cruces, NM

said by kapil:

LOL. What a fool you are. Those H1B people don't work in a call center...they are engineers and developers and scientists.
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A company can't just hire H1B people because it feels like it...it has to prove that the need cannot be met with workers already in this country.
Sorry but you're wrong. AT&T regularly hires H1B's for tier1 networking support in its call centers. I worked in one. They could have trained any US citizen to do this work but didn't. They use Indian contract agencies as preferred vendors and hired H1B's for a maximum of 2 years (normally 1 year with 1 year extention) and then would have to let them go for 6 mo's before they could hire them back. I think the gap was there so that weren't required by their own HR rules to hire them as full-time AT&T employees.

I think all of their positions would be Indian H1b's but there's the occasional client that does not want to hear an Indian accent on the other end of the phone that they must appease to keep the support contract.

If there's still a requirement to prove that the need cannot be met with American worker's -- there are ways around it. One of them is to simply increase the "requirements" to way beyond what they need to be but not the pay -- the H1B says he has whatever is needed whether he has them or not. There's no good way of verifying an H1b's qualifications and the client generally doesn't care since they weren't real requirements anyway. The contracting company gets a pre-negotiated rate for each person they place and has no incentive to pay the contractor anything but the minimum and H1B's are the easiest target. I've seen cases where the H1B is getting about a third of the contract agency's cut.


kapil
The Kapil

join:2000-04-26
Chicago, IL

Yes, but in this case, AT&T is not hiring an individual with a H1 visa...it's the company to which AT&T is outsourcing the work.
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