| [Other] Gizmo5 PAP2T-NA Ok, I ordered a PAP2T-NA a few days ago (hasn't arrived yet...probably Monday-Wednesday of next week)...that said, I'd like to know, in advance, what are the proper things to input for using this with Gizmo5's service.
I have no intentions of using Gizmo5 to ever dial out, I'm merely using it as a "go-between" for Grand Central to forward calls to. |
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| In the softphone client press ** to get your 1747 number..
Have fun using all the sipbroker.com shared call in numbers...
»sipbroker.com/sipbroker/action/pstnNumbers
Call number then *747 1-747-XXXXX
Of course a call in number with Gizmo is only $35 a year and .02 for call out is not that much. Seeing that Gizmo has customizable voicemail, How are you using Grandcentral in the scheme?
My Asterisk Settings - Peer Details
username=1747XXXXXX
type=peer
secret=XXXXXX
insecure=very
host=proxy01.sipphone.com
dtmfmode=rfc2833
disallow=all
context=from-pstn
allow=ulaw&alaw&ilbc
Register String
1747XXXX:XXXX@proxy01.sipphone.com/1747XXXX |
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| I use a Grand Central dialer to call out....it gets forwarded to Gizmo, and I answer, then it attempts to connect me with the party I dialed with GC.
If people call my GC number, it gets forwarded to Gizmo, but if I don't answer, GC's voicemail picks it up.
again, I have no interest in Gizmo as far as calling out...it's merely a "go-between". |
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| I just started playing with the backdoor calling through Gizmoproject.com That is free calling as well »gizmo5.com/pc/backdoor/
7 of the 8 Cell phone numbers I call were in there. |
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| that's nice, but again, you're not listening 
I'm not interested in that.
and besides, if you look into the details of that, it's a different number for each person you call...not exactly conducive to easily calling people. |
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1 edit | reply to Fox McCloud
Gizmo5 Line 1 Settings for PAP2T-NA
Sip Port: any port from 5060-5099
Proxy: proxy01.sipphone.com Use Outbound Proxy: no
Outbound Proxy: leave blank Use OB Proxy in Dialog: no
Register: yes Make Call Without Reg: no
Register Expires: 60 Ans Call Without Reg: no
Use DNS SRV: no DNS SRV Auto Prefix: no
Proxy Fallback Intvl:3600 Proxy Redundancy Method: normal
Display Name: Your Name User ID: 1747####### (G5 ID)
Password: G5 Pswd Use Auth ID: yes
Auth ID: 1747#######
Preferred Codec: G711U
Use Pref Codec Only: no
DTMF TX: Auto
Dial Plan: ([2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx|011xx.|1[2-9]xx[2-9]xxxxxx)
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Default for all other settings on the Line 1 page. |
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| what, exactly is the "dial-plan" settings? |
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| reply to Fox McCloud
Sorry I was not answering you directly, I was just picking up the fact that you liked free calling. Backdoor calling does not have a different number for each numebr you call. You have to find out if you can call it and it is 0101 in front of the number you call BUT it does play an audio ad in the begining which is not so hot. :-(
Hopefully N9MD answered what you wanted directly using your Gizmonumber gained from the softphone **
said by Fox McCloud:that's nice, but again, you're not listening I'm not interested in that. and besides, if you look into the details of that, it's a different number for each person you call...not exactly conducive to easily calling people. |
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| from my experience that's not correct; I back-door called 3 different cellphone numbers and each one had to call a different number back in order to call my Gizmo5 account. |
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| It is not to place a call TO your Gizmo5 account. It is free calling FROM your account.
said by Fox McCloud:"...a different number back in order to call my Gizmo5 account. |
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| you totally misunderstood what I was saying.
when you call someone via backdoor....and it rings someone's phone, it'll be one number (they can call you back by calling that particular number back). When you call a different number, it'll show up on their phone as a completely different number. |
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3 edits | reply to Fox McCloud
said by Fox McCloud:what, exactly is the "dial-plan" settings? The dial plan settings within any ATA (Analog Telephone Adapter) such as the PAP2 tell the device how to handle the numbers you dial when calling out. The one I showed is the standard plan for most routers. This can be modified for 10-digit (i.e., without the leading "1") or 7-digit (i.e., without the "1" & the area code) dialing, if your provider allows such dialing ... or it can be used to add prefixes to frequently dialed numbers ... or it can allow you to dial "411" resulting in redirection to one of the free "411" services such as 1-800-FREE111.
Meanwhile, Fox McCloud, apologies for saying that I don't understand your meaning either ... isn't backdoor dialing where Gizmo5 rings the number you entered and rings you number/phone at the exact same time once the other party answers. Why would they need to call your number back?
Since G5 is making the call for you, would it not make sense that they might transmit a different CID (Caller ID) --- one of theirs, not yours --- for your calls ... since you are not making the call directly through your adapter? |
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Hi, sorry if I was taking everything you said literally.
I think what you are trying to say is that when you use the backdoor to call different people the "Caller ID" is different every time you call someone. It is the issue that skype users face as well, but we will not talk about skype. 
I understand that would be another issue along with the audio ad, but hey it is free right? I am not sure if the paid for caller ID at $4 per year fixes that issue or not. I have been using the paid services for about 3 years now.
said by Fox McCloud:you totally misunderstood what I was saying. when you call someone via backdoor....and it rings someone's phone, it'll be one number (they can call you back by calling that particular number back). When you call a different number, it'll show up on their phone as a completely different number. |
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said by N9MD:Meanwhile, Fox McCloud, apologies for saying that I don't understand your meaning either ... isn't backdoor dialing where Gizmo5 rings the number you entered and rings you number/phone at the exact same time once the other party answers. Why would they need to call your number back? No, that is not Gizmo5 backdoor calling. (You are thinking about a usage of GrandCentral and also a service called DukaDial).
Gizmo5 backdoor calling works for many US numbers, especially many cellphone and Voip numbers.
To check if a number you want to call if eligible:
»gizmo5.com/pc/backdoor/
If it is eligible, then on Gizmo5 you dial 0101 followed by the 10-digit number.
It goes through as a regular phone call, except that both parties hear a brief message "This is a free call from Gizmo5..."
But I just CANNOT understand this discussion about callbacks.
The service is a way to MAKE free calls, not to receive any calls.
When the calls are made, the other party will see a number that is usually from Oklahoma. It's what in the old days would be called a "trunk" number. It is not designed to receive incoming calls.
N9MD, you surprise me. I thought that as a gastroenterologist you knew all about going through the backdoor. |
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Revelstoke, BC | My understanding is that the number displayed to the person called via backdoor calling is different everytime so that there is not a single number you can gove out to these people to call you back on via the back door:
From the link above:
Two-way calling feature:
After calling a mobile or land line phone that's available for Backdoor Dialing using Gizmo5, the person you called can call you back directly on your computer anytime you're logged in to Gizmo5! |
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1 edit | reply to PX Eliezer
said by PX Eliezer:No, that is not Gizmo5 backdoor calling. (You are thinking about a usage of GrandCentral and also DukaDial). Gizmo5 backdoor calling works for many US numbers, especially many cellphone and Voip numbers. To check if a number you want to call if eligible: » gizmo5.com/pc/backdoor/If it is eligible, then on Gizmo5 you dial 0101 followed by the 10-digit number. It goes through as a regular phone call, except that both parties hear a brief message "This is a free call from Gizmo5..." But I just CANNOT understand this discussion about callbacks. The service is a way to MAKE free calls, not to receive any calls. When the calls are made, the other party will see a number that is usually from Oklahoma. It's what in the old days would be called a "trunk" number. It is not designed to receive incoming calls. N9MD, you surprise me. I thought that as a gastroenterologist you knew about going through the backdoor. Thanks, PX ... I had not used the G5 "colorectal dialing" feature ... even though I do have a G5 DID (what a surprise!). But I'm still confused as are you and kieran, apparently ... because I, too, did not consider this type of feature to require the called party to intiate a "callback". I thought it just connected (after the "advert" message).
We'll await clarification from Fox McCloud. |
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said by otty:My understanding is that the number displayed to the person called via backdoor calling is different everytime so that there is not a single number you can gove out to these people to call you back on via the back door: From the link above: Two-way calling feature: After calling a mobile or land line phone that's available for Backdoor Dialing using Gizmo5, the person you called can call you back directly on your computer anytime you're logged in to Gizmo5! he hit it on the head...the fact that the number is different each time (and can be in different states) is the primary reason I don't want to use it.
it's a fun thing to show friends, but overall, not useful for me in the long run. |
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| said by Fox McCloud:he hit it on the head...the fact that the number is different each time (and can be in different states) is the primary reason I don't want to use it. it's a fun thing to show friends, but overall, not useful for me in the long run. Ahhhhhh! Now I understand. And now I see why I never was overcome with a curiosity to try out this feature. |
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| reply to otty
Otty, thanks for pointing that out.
The Gizmo5 site does indeed say:
"Additionally, once you call a number using the Backdoor Dialing program, the person you called can call you back directly on your computer, by simply dialing the Caller ID number they see when you called them. Their call will only cost the price of a local phone call and they'll be able to call you anytime you're logged into Gizmo5, on any computer, anywhere in the world!"
This may be new---I don't think that paragraph was there a while ago.
But it clearly does NOT work properly. Every time I have used the Gizmo5 backdoor dialing service, from my phone in NJ to other folks in NJ, the caller ID shown is from Oklahoma! So no way it's a local phone call for them to call back!!
It's far from the first thing on Gizmo5 that does not work properly!
But to MAKE calls, it's still useful, you just have to warn them in advance about the announcement. |
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| reply to Fox McCloud
It seems as if if you do purchase caller ID for $4 a year that it will indeed work for backdoor calling.
Gizmo Forum Index -> Backdoor Dialing
»forum.gizmo5.com/viewtopic.php?t=8979
Reply by an admin...
It would be nice though for the $4 perhaps they could turn off that audio ad. Although I suppose it would not cover the bandwidth (cheap) & power servers etc to facilitate the service.
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