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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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reply to Nightfall
Nice Deal Rotten Company

It is too bad Qwest doesn't have a similar deal with Dish Network. I don't like DirectTV because of the RIAA like extortion they hit people with who purchased flash card equipment from sites they used the courts to shut down. They went after anyone who purchased equipment from them. If you are bootlegging their signal then you are a crook however they extorted money from people who had no intention of using this equipment to dupilcate their flash cards. below is an example of what I mean.

»www.securityfocus.com/news/6402

DirectTV's flash card would work in any reciever this invited pirating. EchoStar (Dish Network) on the other hand programed their cards so they would only work in a specific reciever only.
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I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
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mlbSAE

join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH
Dish has gone after all the FTA resellers claiming they were helping people pirate their signal. I wouldn't act like they are any better than DirecTV.


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net


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That is correct Free To Air (FTA) Satllite receivers with difficulty can be used to receive Dish Network signals. They are primarly used with the large dish systems to receive the non-ecrypted programing to be found there.
Flash cards on the other hand can be used for other things
besides receiving a DirectTV signal. Except for the C band systems there really isn't much else a FTA receiver can be used for. If you have such a receiver hooked to a small dish system you are pirating the signal.
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I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
- Mark Twain in Eruption


Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
FTA is used primarily for ethnic programming.

mlbSAE

join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH
reply to Transmaster
You said DirecTV was bad company due to their actions involving the flash cards, I don't see what Dish has done to be any different. Both were protecting their signal.


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net

reply to Eat Me
That is correct there are some interesting programing uplinked in Alaska for the Native American Population. But for the person who wants to see ESPN for free listening to Ladies talking about Muktuk in their native tongue just doesn't hack it.
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I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
- Mark Twain in Eruption


Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus

join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net

reply to mlbSAE
said by mlbSAE See Profile :

You said DirecTV was bad company due to their actions involving the flash cards, I don't see what Dish has done to be any different. Both were protecting their signal.
You would not think this was fair if, like the Docter in the linked story, you purchased Flashcard equipment to use for a completely different and legitiment purpose only to be blackmailed into paying money because you happened to purchase it from one of the outfits DirectTV sucsessfully sued.
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I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
- Mark Twain in Eruption

luckystreich

join:2005-11-05
Hartford, CT
reply to Eat Me
or religious programming....

mlbSAE

join:2000-08-01
Dayton, OH
·DONet

reply to Transmaster
said by Transmaster See Profile :

You would not think this was fair if, like the Docter in the linked story, you purchased Flashcard equipment to use for a completely different and legitiment purpose only to be blackmailed into paying money because you happened to purchase it from one of the outfits DirectTV sucsessfully sued.
Nor would you think it was fair if you watched FTA shows, no hacking involved, yet Dish said you only purchased it from a retailer to steal their signal. Dish told all their retailers that they must drop their FTA receivers or face losing their status as a Dish reseller. Pretty crappy if you ask me.
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