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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

I wonder if they'll try it in the Los Angeles market

Most parts of Los Angeles are AT&T.
If they attempted it in Los Angeles - people would flock to AT&T ... who would probably start implementing similar billing (wasn't it Reno, NV that AT&T was testing this with as well)
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swintec
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join:2003-12-19
Alfred, ME
kudos:3

Yes they are testing it as well. You really will not win in this regard.
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Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

Then they'll just go to 3rd party DSL providers like DSL Extreme.


unoriginal

join:2000-07-12
San Diego, CA

Sonic.net also serves SoCal. I don't believe that they have any plans for caps either, at least not right now.



Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

And many of these 3rd party providers have very relaxed TOS/AUP permitting serving, have free usenet, etc in addition to not having any usage restrictions.



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to Dogfather
I have been with DSL Extreme before.. and as an ISP - I find their service much more desirable than TWC has been since I've had them (August). Only thing that has kept me with TWC is the bundle deal that I've had ($90/month for 10/1, VoIP, Digital TV)



davoice

join:2000-08-12
Saxapahaw, NC
Reviews:
·Comporium

reply to Dogfather
My how quickly we forget how easy it is to make resellers/wholesalers irrelevant.

»Bell Canada Devises Backup Plan To Kill Wholesale Competitors

»Canadian Regulators Strangling Independent ISPs

}Davoice



BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Nite-Owl

join:2007-01-11

reply to Dogfather
The day AT&T starts their caps that's where I'm headed.



maartena
Elmo
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·DIRECTV

reply to en102

said by en102:

Most parts of Los Angeles are AT&T.
If they attempted it in Los Angeles - people would flock to AT&T ... who would probably start implementing similar billing (wasn't it Reno, NV that AT&T was testing this with as well)
It's about 50/50 actually in the Los Angeles market. Half Verizon, half AT&T.

I live in AT&T country myself, but just 6 miles away from me they can enjoy FIOS in Garden Grove which is Verizon.

See here for the list: »www.fiberexperts.com/california-fios.html

Most of the cities on that list are in SoCal, as Verizon does not serve the bay area. (Except a few small communities).

Look at this map also: »/r0/download/1···rage.gif

Both the blue and red are Verizon land line areas. If you know your geography, you can see that Los Angeles County is split in the middle somewhat, with the eastern/southern side being Verizon. The northern/western side of Orange County is also Verizon, as well as large areas in Riverside, and some spots in Ventura county.

The light blue areas are served by others, mainly being AT&T I think, but there could be some other telcos involved.

AT&T's UVerse is also available in large areas of the Los Angeles area, including where I live. If I have to, I may switch to AT&Ts 18/1.5 plan, and leave TV with TWC.

But I don't think they are going to enforce limits in Los Angeles any time soon.

I can live with the Comcast 250 Gb limit. But anything less then 100 Gb is absolutely rediculous.


maartena
Elmo
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
kudos:1
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse
·DIRECTV

reply to en102
DSLExtreme would be my DSL provider of choice if I were to make the switch to DSL. It's too bad they don't offer DSL2+ based speeds yet like AT&T's uVerse.

For now I don't think that TWC will enforce caps in the LA market, too much competition.

We'll burn that bridge when we get to it.



Dogfather
Premium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

reply to davoice
That's Canada.



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA

reply to maartena
Technically... they do, but at a very steep price.
For $89.95, I can get 8Mbps/1Mbps (Dry) or for $119.95, I can get 10Mbps/1Mbps dry .. still not any higher than I can get on TWC.. but includes TV and VoIP on TWC.
For $19.95/month (+POTS service), I could get 3Mbps/512kbps again.
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Canada = Hollywood North


jjeffeory

join:2002-12-04
USA

reply to Dogfather
Much of the country doesn't have 3rd party DSL providers like DSL Extreme. That's mainly a SoCal thing.



major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
Premium
join:2003-02-13
Stepford, CA

reply to maartena

said by maartena:

Most of the cities on that list are in SoCal, as Verizon does not serve the bay area. (Except a few small communities).
Correction. FiOS territory in your above referenced list includes predominantly Los Angeles and Riverside counties. "So Cal" encompasses more than just these 2 counties.

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