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Yes. However, we have MUCH BETTER TECHNOLOGY now than in 1974. It's called computers, which were rudimentary in those days. We have satellites monitoring the ice receding. We have time lines to show that patterns are changing. Is everything man made? Probably not. Are we a big contributing factor. I imagine so. Your argument is the biggest cock and bull story. 35 year old article to refute things.

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If you for once think that what we do has no effect on this planet, you're naive. It's like Lead, DDT, and other substances we have created.

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Science is a study of patterns. How do we know something is happening? We compare changes of Glaciers from Photos 100 years ago to now.

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100 years of weather Data is Reliable. That's about as far back as the weather service goes BY HUMAN RECORDS AND DOCUMENTS. Not including Photographs. Thats about 150-170 years.

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It was the 1600s. Witches, sea monsters, etc roamed the earth. Not like we had computers and satellites to check the data. What's your point here? I'm really at a loss. So the Majority did not believe them. That's like me taking the Theories of the 16th century of uneducated people and applying it to modern day reality. Yes, I understand that you are STUCK on the 35 year old article of a FEW PEOPLE. I understand that you can't let it go. However, a Majority in this case also use SIMPLE SCIENCE LIKE ABOVE when determining Global Warming.

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The ranks of those who believe man-made emissions are increasing world temperatures are thinning, observers report. Even James Hansen, director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, who put the phrase "global warming" into popular usage, has reportedly backed off.

More scientists are acknowledging that so may factors influence the climate that it is not yet possible to state with certainty how and why climate change takes place.

- In the August 18 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Hansen wrote: "The forces that drive long-term climate change are not known with an accuracy sufficient to define future climate change."

- Experts report that as climate models have been refined, they have tended to predict less global warming.

- In 1990, the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicted that the average global temperature would rise 3.3 degrees Celsius over the next century -- but in 1995 predicted only a 1.0 degree increase due to human activity.

Scientists agree that natural factors -- such as volcanic or sunspot activity, clouds and oceans -- are important variables in raising or lowering Earth temperatures, but their role is still only imperfectly understood.

Source: Anna Bray Duff, "Greenhouse Warming Cools Off," Investor's Business Daily, November 24, 1998.

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A key article of faith for the "warmists" is a supposed increase in the incidence of extreme weather events, such as droughts. As Al Gore claimed to a US Senate committee in March, "droughts are becoming longer and more intense".

But US researchers, led by Gemma Narisma, have now shown that, far from becoming more frequent in recent decades, serious droughts have in fact become rarer than they were a century ago.

In a paper (reported on the website CO2Science.org) they identified the 30 most "severe and persistent" drought episodes of the 20th century.

Seven of these occurred before 1920, seven between 1921 and 1940 and eight between 1941 and 1960, dropping to five between 1961 and 1980.

The last two decades of the century, when the world was supposedly hotting up more than ever, saw just three. The worst drought affecting the developed world was the US Dust Bowl disaster of the mid-1930s.

This corresponds with the recently revised figures for US surface temperatures published by Gore's leading scientific ally, James Hansen of Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS).

Last month, when Steve McIntyre, an expert statistical analyst, spotted a fundamental flaw in the method Hansen had used to calculate his figures, GISS was forced to publish a new graph, showing that the hottest year of the 20th century was not 1998, as generally accepted, but 1934. Of the 10 hottest years since 1880, four were in the 1930s, only three in the past decade.

This in turn followed the latest satellite figures from the US National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration showing how global temperatures in recent years have flattened out at about 0.2 degrees below their 1998 level, and that this summer's figures have been lower than they were in 1983, despite a continuing rise in CO2.

It is clear that 2007 is proving quite a turning point in the climate change debate.

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So, when do we get rid of cows and tell China and Japan to stop growing rice?

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And did you read this part?

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That article points out volcanic activity and possible solar activity. None of which is man made.

This will bring me to a later point.

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And they still don't have a definite reason as to why the dinosaurs died out rather quickly. Was it climate change or was it that meteorite that struck off the Yucatan coast? Still in the theory stages on that.

Why did some species die out before man even showed up? Still not sure about those are we? Even Darwin's theory has holes in it but it is the most credible out there.

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Two Greek astronomers postulated the world was round way before Columbus even was born. They had the math and the science to back it up and yet, the MAJORITY did not believe them. Seems the MAJORITY WAS WRONG! Just because most people think it is true, doesn't mean it is.

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And, by your own admission, we only have 100 years of hard data while we know climate changes can happen over thousands of years.

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So we don't get bombarded by solar radiation? Really? From your definition of the Earth being a closed system, the sun sure has a large influence on our planet. The Earth is not a glass globe. Radiation leaks out. We send stuff out into space that doesn't come back.

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Nuclear winter was a coin termed by what might happen if we had global nuclear war. Massive volcanic eruptions have done the same thing to the term is outdated and a misnomer. Look up Mount Tambora which is the largest volcanic eruption in recorded history. That created a world without summer in 1816.

As for our own actions, are we partially to blame, yes. Are we the main cause? Not enough data to support that. Again, you base some of your conclussions on 100 year data spans and then bring in parts of data streams lasting over a thousand years only when it supports your side of the argument.

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That implies you are setting most of your blame on the human race.

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A legend in your own mind as usual. The scientific method escapes you but you like generalities like calling all texans morons. And before you spout off your usually stupidity, I am not from texas nor have I ever been to texas.

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Methane: Burning fossil fuels, livestock waste, landfills and rice production.

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We are polluting Rivers, Cutting down Forests (Which reduce carbon dioxides), and harming are air at record rates.

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First, it was all to blame and now only partially to substantially? Didn't you make this same mistake when arguing over congressional votes?

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Despite being published in such journals such as Science, Nature and Geophysical Review Letters, these scientists have gotten little media attention. "Not all of these researchers would describe themselves as global warming skeptics," said Avery, "but the evidence in their studies is there for all to see."
The names were compiled by Avery and climate physicist S. Fred Singer, the co-authors of the new book Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years, mainly from the peer-reviewed studies cited in their book. The researchers' specialties include tree rings, sea levels, stalagmites, lichens, pollen, plankton, insects, public health, Chinese history and astrophysics.
"We have had a Greenhouse Theory with no evidence to support it-except a moderate warming turned into a scare by computer models whose results have never been verified with real-world events," said co-author Singer. "On the other hand, we have compelling evidence of a real-world climate cycle averaging 1470 years (plus or minus 500) running through the last million years of history. The climate cycle has above all been moderate, and the trees, bears, birds, and humans have quietly adapted."

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During the 1970s the famous American astronomer Carl Sagan and other scientists began promoting the theory that ‘greenhouse gasses’ such as carbon dioxide, or CO2, produced by human industries could lead to catastrophic global warming. Since the 1970s the theory of ‘anthropogenic global warming’ (AGW) has gradually become accepted as fact by most of the academic establishment, and their acceptance of AGW has inspired a global movement to encourage governments to make pivotal changes to prevent the worsening of AGW.

The central piece of evidence that is cited in support of the AGW theory is the famous ‘hockey stick’ graph which was presented by Al Gore in his 2006 film “An Inconvenient Truth.” The ‘hockey stick’ graph shows an acute upward spike in global temperatures which began during the 1970s and continued through the winter of 2006/07. However, this warming trend was interrupted when the winter of 2007/8 delivered the deepest snow cover to the Northern Hemisphere since 1966 and the coldest temperatures since 2001. It now appears that the current Northern Hemisphere winter of 2008/09 will probably equal or surpass the winter of 2007/08 for both snow depth and cold temperatures.

The main flaw in the AGW theory is that its proponents focus on evidence from only the past one thousand years at most, while ignoring the evidence from the past million years — evidence which is essential for a true understanding of climatology. The data from paleoclimatology provides us with an alternative and more credible explanation for the recent global temperature spike, based on the natural cycle of Ice Age maximums and interglacials.

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About 325,000 years ago, at the peak of a warm interglacial, global temperature and CO2 levels were higher than they are today. Today we are again at the peak, and near to the end, of a warm interglacial, and the earth is now due to enter the next Ice Age. If we are lucky, we may have a few years to prepare for it. The Ice Age will return, as it always has, in its regular and natural cycle, with or without any influence from the effects of AGW.

The AGW theory is based on data that is drawn from a ridiculously narrow span of time and it demonstrates a wanton disregard for the ‘big picture’ of long-term climate change. The data from paleoclimatology, including ice cores, sea sediments, geology, paleobotany and zoology, indicate that we are on the verge of entering another Ice Age, and the data also shows that severe and lasting climate change can occur within only a few years. While concern over the dubious threat of Anthropogenic Global Warming continues to distract the attention of people throughout the world, the very real threat of the approaching and inevitable Ice Age, which will render large parts of the Northern Hemisphere uninhabitable, is being foolishly ignored.

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In Africa, drought continues for the sixth consecutive year, adding terribly to the toll of famine victims. During 1972 record rains in parts of the U.S., Pakistan and Japan caused some of the worst flooding in centuries. In Canada's wheat belt, a particularly chilly and rainy spring has delayed planting and may well bring a disappointingly small harvest. Rainy Britain, on the other hand, has suffered from uncharacteristic dry spells the past few springs. A series of unusually cold winters has gripped the American Far West, while New England and northern Europe have recently experienced the mildest winters within anyone's recollection.

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As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age.

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Telltale signs are everywhere —from the unexpected persistence and thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southward migration of a warmth-loving creature like the armadillo from the Midwest.

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Man, too, may be somewhat responsible for the cooling trend. The University of Wisconsin's Reid A. Bryson and other climatologists suggest that dust and other particles released into the atmosphere as a result of farming and fuel burning may be blocking more and more sunlight from reaching and heating the surface of the earth.

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