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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
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reply to jc100

Re: Well,

said by jc100:

A 22-year-old man believed to be a U.S. citizen has been identified among the detainees at the naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
HAHAHAH ok conspiracy theory nutjub. Take off your tinfoil hat and provide me with a single reputable reference that there are ANY American citizens in Guantanamo. Go ahead, I double dog dare you!
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jc100

join:2002-04-10
It's from the U.S. Department of Defense. Conspiracy theory? Are you seriously that fucking stupid? It's from the government's OWN WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
said by jc100:

It's from the U.S. Department of Defense. Conspiracy theory? Are you seriously that fucking stupid? It's from the government's OWN WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feel free to post any US Government (or any government anywhere in the world) report that proves your point. Dont worry, we can all wait a while so start digging!
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jc100

join:2002-04-10

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A 22-year-old man believed to be a U.S. citizen has been identified among the detainees at the naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Yasser Esam Hamdi surrendered to U.S. and friendly Afghan forces after a deadly four-day prison riot near Mazar-e Sharif, Afghanistan, in November 2001. The uprising was the same during which CIA officer Johnny Michael Spann was killed Nov. 25 and alleged American Taliban member John Walker Lindh was taken into custody.

Notice the PRETTY LITTLE TITLE ON TOP THAT SAYS DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE. Notice the .MIL LINK. Military.

Here's the dead give away: American Forces Press Service

Here's the LINK.

»www.defenselink.mil/news/newsart···id=44193

Now go learn a thing or two. My god, PLEASE DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN. You have just created a NEW FORM OF STUPID.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
reply to jc100
said by jc100:

Conspiracy theory? Are you seriously that fucking stupid?
Let me help you out. Here are a couple of other sites I suggest you visit.

»www.2spare.com/item_43133.aspx

»www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/···/st_best

»www.oddee.com/item_92285.aspx

Enjoy!
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jc100

join:2002-04-10
So the Department of Defense Military Site and an American Armed Forces Press release are Conspiracy Theories.

Dude I give up.

YOU ARE BEYOND INTELLECTUALLY DEFICIENT. You're a walking fucking MORON.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
said by jc100:

So the Department of Defense Military Site and an American Armed Forces Press release are Conspiracy Theories.
Show me the article released by the DoD or any armed forces branch that states Americans are interned in Guantano Bay. Any article of your choice!
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jc100

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Think I just did for the 3rd time. Scroll back, click the pretty little blue thing, and open it up. It's a URL (Universal Resource Locator) that takes you to a nice page with something that

A) Says Military (.MIL)
B) Armed Forces Press Release
C) Department of Defense. I've shown you it numerous times bud.

New form of stupid HERE WE COME.

»www.defenselink.mil/news/newsart···id=44193

.... There... Can you utilize the mouse and the SINGLE BRAIN CELL left in your head long enough to click the link?


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

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Ok, lets review this one last time. You claim there are Americans in Guantanamo Bay, yet you (nor anyone else) can provide any proof. You repeatedly link to an article (from 2002 by the way) that indicates it had come to the attention of the US military that one person arrested might be a US citizen. As it turns out, he was! Shockingly, as soon as this information came to light he was immediately transferred and sent to a military prison here in the US (as he should being an American citizen).

quote:
He was initially detained at Camp X-Ray at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and was later transferred to military jails in Virginia and South Carolina after it became known that he was a U.S. citizen.
Another nice try! Keep 'em coming buddy.
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jc100

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Do you not read or are you just too fucking stupid to read?

A 22-year-old man believed to be a U.S. citizen has been identified among the detainees at the naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The first line man. THE VERY FIRST LINE. You in your own words said PROVE TO ME ONE AMERICAN who was at Guantanamo Bay. I JUST DID. It doesn't matter if they later moved him. HE WAD HELD THERE. SWISH.

Case and POINT. YOU ARE WRONG.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

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said by jc100:

You in your own words said PROVE TO ME ONE AMERICAN who was at Guantanamo Bay.
Nope, in fact my exact quote was as follows:

said by wifi4milez :
Take off your tinfoil hat and provide me with a single reputable reference that there are ANY American citizens in Guantanamo.
You simply proved my point even further. Even when an American citizen is arrested for a horrible crime, he isnt allowed to be locked up it Gitmo. As soon as they found out who he was, he was moved to the US. Its not like he was running around the battlefield with an American flag in his hand, so naturally they needed to sort him out from the rest of the bunch. The rest of the vermin get to enjoy their stay however, as they dont have the privilege of being a US citizen.
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jc100

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DUDE............. HE WAS LOCKED UP AT GITMO.... IT SAID STRAIGHT IN THE FIRST SENTENCE.

Dude you're a new kind of stupid. Keep talking. Everyone reading this is going to agree.

Whether or not they moved him is an ASIDE ISSUE> HE WAS LOCKED UP THERE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

As per the prison itself, its a gross violation of Human rights.

Charles Taylors Son = Not American but we arrested him anyway and giving him a trial for War Crimes in Florida.

Nazis Not American -= Given Hague Trial

Milosevic Not American Given Hague trial

Whats the point? We give mass murders and genocidal lunatics trial but not some "Terrorist". Strange. Kill a few hundred thousand you're afford a court. Kill a few and you're an enemy combatant.

Tweedle Dumb is asking for Tweedle Dee.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
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said by jc100:

DUDE............. HE WAS LOCKED UP AT GITMO.... IT SAID STRAIGHT IN THE FIRST SENTENCE.

Dude you're a new kind of stupid. Keep talking. Everyone reading this is going to agree.
They are going to agree that he was locked up in Gimto, and that he was subsequently transferred to the US as soon as they realized he was a US citizen. This simply further proves that they are NO Americans at the facility. I cant make this any easier for you, perhaps you can bow out gracefully before you dig yourself in deeper?
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jc100

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That WAS NOT WHAT YOU SAID.

quote:
Take off your tinfoil hat and provide me with a single reputable reference that there are ANY American citizens in Guantanamo.
READ WHAT YOU WROTE. READ WHAT I SAID.

YOU = WRONG. YOU = EXTREMELY WRONG YOU = PROVEN WRONG

....... This is the Path you take for your walk of shame. You can't back peddle out of your own quote. Your quote said PROVE TO ME ANY AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE IN GITMO. I did. I showed you that we HAD ONE THERE. So he got moved. Big Deal. WE STILL HAD AN AMERICAN AT GITMO AT ONE POINT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME!!!!! I PROVED MY POINT.

No where in this conversation did I say we are CURRENTLY HOLDING ANY. I said there have been an American at GITMO Before. Which I substantiated. I know my facts. You don't.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
said by jc100:

That WAS NOT WHAT YOU SAID.
HUH?? Thats exactly what I said, you just quoted me again! Learn to read man. I said there ARE no American citizens in Gitmo, and there arent.

said by wifi4milez:

Take off your tinfoil hat and provide me with a single reputable reference that there are ANY American citizens in Guantanamo.

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jc100

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Yes, ARE CURRENTLY. You are correct. But, THERE HAVE BEEN. I said before there have been American / Americans in Gitmo. That was my argument. I NEVER ONCE SAID ANY CURRENTLY RESIDE THERE. You are the one trying to look for an out so you can save face.

How wrong do you want to be.

Nothing you've said so far holds ANY WATER, TRUTH, or ACCURACY.

I proved you wrong that we:

Hold Genocidal Leaders, Mass Murderers, and the like up for trial... But if you are a Muslim and an "Enemy Combatant" you get no rights.... Yet Charles Taylor's son who tortured and murdered countless, has a nice trial in Florida.

I proved you wrong that We held American / Americans in Gitmo.

I Proved you wrong that Wiretapping everyone and "Keeping you safe" is a FARCE. Your chances of dying from NORMAL THINGS far outweigh some fabricated sky is falling argument.

Pretty much, I've systematically proven you wrong over and over. SO let's smile and realize you lack any bit of credibility.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
said by jc100:

Nothing you've said so far holds ANY WATER, TRUTH, or ACCURACY.
Yeah I guess you are right; Guantanamo is filled with American citizens. In fact, I now (after listening to you) believe that every person there must be both wrongly incarcerated and an American citizen!

You see, the world needs more terrorist sympathizers such as yourself. Those 'freedom fighters' are just misunderstood, right? A worldwide organization bent on the destruction of the United States (and other freedom loving countries) cant really be THAT bad, now can it??
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jc100

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Never claimed Gitmo was filled with Americans. Don't put words in my mouth for your gain. I said we have held American / Americans there. That's all I have ever claimed. I was right.

Freedom Fighters. Well Amigo Boy (yes yes we now it's you), there's no terrorist sympathizers. It's called being a human being. If you become the enemy you fight, why bother fighting. Matter of fact, if you want to argue terrorist, we are the aggressors right now in Iraq. Last I checked, Iraq never attacked us. We invaded them, toppled their government, destabilized their country. All over bad intelligence. Sounds like the U.S. fucked up ay? So should we start arresting ourselves for the consequential 1-200,000 people killed there as a result. What about Vietnam where we executed a village full of people? Or WW2 where we locked up Japanese in Internment camps?

Gee. terrorism is sooooooooooooooooo subjective now isn't it =). Guess it depends on what side of The coin you are on.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
said by jc100:

Gee. terrorism is sooooooooooooooooo subjective now isn't it =). Guess it depends on what side of The coin you are on.
Yep, and its very clear which side you are on. I think we are done here. Its good that everyone can see your true colors, as most people would be embarrassed/ashamed to say the things you have in a public forum.

In closing, I would like to point out the following:

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jc100

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LOL side I am on. What's that? The side of rational common sense and truth? Yea, damn me for bringing out the truth and pointing out the obvious. You don't like that you lack both. History speaks for itself. We're the aggressors in Iraq. We invaded them bud. They didn't come here. That would be Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Omen nationals for 9/11. Not a single Iraqi. We blew up the wrong country. Makes us the terrorist.

We persecuted the Japanese in Internment camps where thousands died. Gee, reminds me of the Nazis.

We massacred whole villages of civilians in Vietnam. Damn, wonder what that reminds me of.

All this in the last 60 yrs. Terrorism is subject.

Arguing with you is like arguing with the village idiot. At the end of the day, you feel just a dumb as the person you're speaking too.

Anyhow, Dosvedonya cyka.


wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace

join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
said by jc100:

Makes us the terrorist.
Yawn, thanks once again for showing us where you stand on the issues. Yes (according to you and the anti American conspiracy theorists), the United States is a terrorist state. Have fun with that outlook on life, I am sure it will get you far and earn you friends in all the "right places".
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jc100

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No according to me, terrorism is subjective. Depends on what side of the coin you are on. I am sure Iraqi's view us as the terrorists.

- Invaded their country
- Toppled their government
- Never once attacked us

Pretty much, we waltzed in and fucked up their joint. So yes, terrorism is quite subjective.

I'm sure if you ask Japanese who were forced into internment camps.. IE NAZI Concentration Camps.. except we just let them die of disease.. They'd call this an act of terrorism.

Or Ask the family of the vietnamese we slaughtered.

So you offer rhetoric. I offer truth. There's no conspiracy behind facts. Obviously, you're left with your version which is hyperbole, and mine, historical. I think i'll opt for one not conjured up by someone that lacks the common sense to analyze.

On that final Note. Blind patriotism and Nationalism (You're Bullshit), is what led to the Holocaust and Bosnia. People bad. We good. They die now for our cause.

Ah yes, nothing like the flag waving idiot to smile at his countries anthem while spilling the blood of others.
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