FisamoPremium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC | reply to diver858
Re: AT&T Callvantage will disconnect in Feb Future Nine looks good from reviews, etc. My main concerns with them are their size (essentially a one-man show), lack of "HR redundancy". In other words, if nitzan  goes 'down' they're in trouble.  (No, I don't wish that on nitzan !)
FWIW, I did include Future Nine in the poll thread, but I noticed that I did forget Phone Power.  |
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TomMacPremium
join:2008-03-23
Dayton, OH | reply to JAXx
A friend just switched to Lingo. I know at one time there was a problem with them SPAMING the forums. I could not find a lot of information on them. At one time Clark Howard did recommend them. |
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PX EliezerPremium
join:2008-08-09
Hutt River
kudos:12 Reviews:
 ·voip.ms
·callwithus
·Callcentric
·Vitelity VOIP
·Optimum Voice
·Gizmo5
1 edit | Lingo is owned by Primus, a company that recently filed US Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
I think that there are better choices. 
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Because I'm sure someone will point it out, the Lingo operating unit was not officially part of the Primus bankruptcy. But still.... |
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screenshot of basic WAN function screen. |
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 NetFixerFreedom is NOT freePremium
join:2004-06-24
The 'Boro
·Vonage
 ·Cingular Wireless
 ·Comcast
 ·AT&T Southeast
| said by diver858:screenshot of basic WAN function screen. Can you tell me exactly where in that screenshot you think that you can configure the SIP parameters in order to use the DVG-5102S as a non-CallVantage ATA?
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| I did not have time to go through all of the screens - just confirmed that it was possible to get in without an admin password. Are you suggesting that none of the available options will provide access to the SIP parameters? |
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 NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3
·AT&T CallVantage
| said by diver858:I did not have time to go through all of the screens - just confirmed that it was possible to get in without an admin password. Are you suggesting that none of the available options will provide access to the SIP parameters? Why do you think I have a boatload of them still in my garage? |
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NetFixerFreedom is NOT freePremium
join:2004-06-24
The 'Boro Reviews:
·Vonage
·Cingular Wireless
·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast
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said by diver858:I did not have time to go through all of the screens - just confirmed that it was possible to get in without an admin password. Are you suggesting that none of the available options will provide access to the SIP parameters? Actually, you are the one who suggested it was possible (although I don't think you knew that was what you were suggesting).
I am just asking you where/how it is done because to my knowledge the DVG-5102S was only produced for CallVantage, and it only uses remote provisioning from a CallVantage server. This is shown below in a screen capture from the D-Link on-line DVG-5102S emulator:
Don't bother looking for this screen on your DVG-5102S, it is extremely unlikely that you will find this screen on a real-world DVG-5102S as shipped by CallVantage. Even if you manually access Tools_Authkey.html or Tools_Prov_Info.html what you are likely to see is this:
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Folks I ordered ooma. You can get it on sale at amazon for $200 and never have to pay another monthly phone bill. Porting is supported but costs $40 bucks. It has received stellar reviews on Amazon and around the web. You can check it out at www.ooma.com. I should be getting mine on Monday and will see how it does but as far as I can tell this appears to be the slickest solution with best bang for the buck at least for me. |
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·RoadRunner Cable
| Ooma is like a Ponzi scheme. They have to keep signing up more and more new customers to keep paying to support their existing customers who expect free service for life.
In a year or so, you'll either get unbearably bad service, or it'll go completely belly up.
How long do you think this will retain Ashton Kutcher's attention? |
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NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3 Reviews:
·AT&T CallVantage
| said by MyDogHsFleas:Ooma is like a Ponzi scheme. They have to keep signing up more and more new customers to keep paying to support their existing customers who expect free service for life. In a year or so, you'll either get unbearably bad service, or it'll go completely belly up. How long do you think this will retain Ashton Kutcher's attention? You beat me to it. Eventually, those who went with Ooma will find out they have been Punk'd.....  |
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People have been saying the same thing about ooma since 2007 when the company started. Fact is, if you figure $25/mos for other voip provider and $200 for the box, you will have paid for the box with just 8 months of service. So IF (and thats a huge if) they were ever to go out of business in a year, I would have already recouped the cost of the device and saved my self $100 bucks over going with another VOIP provider.
For those that say this is a ponzi scheme, they do have a new business model which is to sell their "premium" service with additional bells and whistles for $99/year. Like I said, check out their website and reviews around the net before you start drawing conclusions. |
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FisamoPremium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC | said by sidewinder33625 :
People have been saying the same thing about ooma since 2007 when the company started. Fact is, if you figure $25/mos for other voip provider and $200 for the box, you will have paid for the box with just 8 months of service. So IF (and thats a huge if) they were ever to go out of business in a year, I would have already recouped the cost of the device and saved my self $100 bucks over going with another VOIP provider.
For those that say this is a ponzi scheme, they do have a new business model which is to sell their "premium" service with additional bells and whistles for $99/year. Like I said, check out their website and reviews around the net before you start drawing conclusions.
Does this mean that ooma's tagline should be "Get a reasonable price for 8 months of service, if we last that long. If we're around for even longer, bonus for you!"
Sunrocket saved numerous people money while they were around, and some of their customers got excellent service. When they went under, though, all of their customers (a) were suddenly out phone service that they had PAID for, (b) had to unexpectedly find a new provider to take over their service, etc. Did they save enough for that hassle to be worthwhile? I'm sure some would say yes, others would say no. Had I gone with SR, I'd be in the latter camp (which is why I never went with SR).
Ooma will have to start collecting from all existing customers a recurring service charge or they won't be around in the long term. Not just this 'premium' service that they offer...
There will be tons of positive reviews until their users all get Punk'd. |
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NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3 Reviews:
·AT&T CallVantage
| said by Fisamo:said by sidewinder33625 :
People have been saying the same thing about ooma since 2007 when the company started. Fact is, if you figure $25/mos for other voip provider and $200 for the box, you will have paid for the box with just 8 months of service. So IF (and thats a huge if) they were ever to go out of business in a year, I would have already recouped the cost of the device and saved my self $100 bucks over going with another VOIP provider.
For those that say this is a ponzi scheme, they do have a new business model which is to sell their "premium" service with additional bells and whistles for $99/year. Like I said, check out their website and reviews around the net before you start drawing conclusions.
There will be tons of positive reviews until their users all get Punk'd. Imagine how Bruce Willis feels about Ooma....  |
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| No one is 100% safe from a company going out of business(SR) or for that matter discontinuing service(callvantage, voicewing). Everyone makes their choices and hopes for the best. Welcome to the world of VOIP folks. |
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FisamoPremium
join:2004-02-20
Apex, NC
1 edit | I don't think anyone here disagrees with you. The open question is whether a provider appears viable and trustworthy enough to earn my business. Call me crazy, but I don't blindly trust anyone who promises me something for nothing.
Edit: If ooma proves their business model over time, I might trust them. I said the same about SR, but I never got the chance to try them out... |
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nitzanPremium,VIP
join:2008-02-27
kudos:2 | You know.. this kind of reminds me of the folks who ported their number from SunRocket to Vonics - only to have Vonics go out of business with no warning overnight.
Do the math and decide. But consider that unlike CV which gives you a head notice - other providers may not. The Vonics refugees had to wait weeks before their numbers have been ported to another provider - meanwhile the number was down. Price is not everything and if it's too good to be true - it probably isn't true in the long run. |
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NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3 Reviews:
·AT&T CallVantage
| said by nitzan:You know.. this kind of reminds me of the folks who ported their number from SunRocket to Vonics - only to have Vonics go out of business with no warning overnight. Do the math and decide. But consider that unlike CV which gives you a head notice - other providers may not. The Vonics refugees had to wait weeks before their numbers have been ported to another provider - meanwhile the number was down. Price is not everything and if it's too good to be true - it probably isn't true in the long run. This is a general comment and not directed at any one carrier/service provider:
Everyone should abandon the idea that the cheaper the better. There are SOME things in life that you have to make an assessment of and then make a business/safety decision on.
What will I get for $2.00 a month? Will my family be safe?
If my house is burning down, will the Fire Department know how to get to me etc...
It is only a bargain if you get value out of it. If it is cheap and does not work, you have essentially flushed money down the toilet. |
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| Yes and no. MCI Neighborhood POTS was THE MOST rock solid light-switch simple phone service I ever had (aside from Ma-Bell pre 1984). But at $78 per month it's simply not worth it. |
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NY TelPremium
join:2004-04-09
Smithtown, NY
kudos:3 Reviews:
·AT&T CallVantage
| said by Mediocrates:Yes and no. MCI Neighborhood POTS was THE MOST rock solid light-switch simple phone service I ever had (aside from Ma-Bell pre 1984). But at $78 per month it's simply not worth it. See but that's where the ILECs go crazy in the opposite direction - they have the Methods and Procedures in place to provide reliable service as a cost higher than some of the voip providers and lower than what their overhead requires so they absolutely can provide quality service but their costs are higher, blah, blah....etc. |
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