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| | great time to hire It will be very easy to hire.
I would be mad if I was in a union that went on strike right now. Would not want to burn through savings before a layoff. | |
|   DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | Re: great time to hire A few dozen or a few hundred maybe, but certainly not 20,000. Workers aren't as easy to replace as you might think, certainly not in the numbers they're looking at. If it were, AT&T would have busted the union a long time ago. | |
| |  Old_GrouchDon't just sit there silly DO somethingPremium
join:2004-05-26
Greenwood, IN
kudos:1 | Re: great time to hire at&t was recently asked why the delay in hiring the number of call center employees in Indiana that they had promised to hire.
Their excuse - they were having trouble finding sufficient numbers of qualified employees... for a call center... where life is scripted.
Beware their bilingual nature...able to talk out of both sides of their face.
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| | |  PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03
1 edit | Re: great time to hire Complete bull. I worked for SBC/AT&T in 2005 as a call center rep when I couldn't find work installing DirecTV. Three weeks of screwing off that they call training, a silly little test, and they put you on the phone with a computer program full of scripts to read.
With the unemployment rate as high as it is, there is NO REASON they can't fill up a call center. They only reason they don't is because India is still cheaper.
EDIT: P.S. I just heard on the radio the unemplyment rate in Elkhart (Elkhorn?) Indiana is over 15%! And they can't find call center reps!?!
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| | | |  morboComplete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000 | Re: great time to hire AT&T is being shrewd. wait long enough, and people here in the U.S. will work for minimum wage...or less! | |
| | | | | | | Re: great time to hire said by morbo:AT&T is being shrewd. wait long enough, and people here in the U.S. will work for minimum wage...or less! or better yet...have the federal govt. pay for foreign worker to come in via work visa and then pay them minimum wage with a medicare benefit! This is what ATT is trying to do | |
| | | | | | | said by morbo:AT&T is being shrewd. wait long enough, and people here in the U.S. will work for minimum wage...or less! no way in HELL-O
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| | |  Mac BridgerLate to the partyPremium
join:2001-01-11
West Newton, PA | Just because they load you up with scripts doesn't mean that you don't have to be capable. | |
| | | | | PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
join:2005-01-03 | Re: great time to hire said by Mac Bridger:Just because they load you up with scripts doesn't mean that you don't have to be capable. You'd be surprised. It seemed the dumber the employee, the more the bosses liked them (and the longer they stuck around). Smart employees realized they were getting cheated out of pay and bonuses for whatever reason the bosses could come up with, and split. I even had to file a complaint with Wa state Dept of Labor because they failed to give me a promised (in writing) raise.
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| | DogfatherPremium
join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA | There is a difference between not finding qualified people and not finding people at New Delhi slave wage rates AT&T is interested in paying. | |
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1 edit | said by Dogfather:A few dozen or a few hundred maybe, but certainly not 20,000. Workers aren't as easy to replace as you might think, certainly not in the numbers they're looking at. If it were, AT&T would have busted the union a long time ago. DOGFATHER,you said that right in your post WE as Mechanics for Eastern Airlines,(yea I was with them for 15 yrs) & the CWA walked the lines,(picket) with us,the strike started out with Frank Bormam.{yea the astronaut they forgot to leave on the moon) and then WHAT PILOT is going to take a plane up that hasn't been ok'd by a mechanic, so the pilots joined us,then the stews had no choice they joined us in the strike,the final threat was when Frank borman, said he would sell the airline/turn control over to HIS BROTHER IN LAW FRANK LORENZO yea we lost a good job & a good airline, but we sure as hell wasn't going to settle (as a union) to have our pay & benefit cut by 1/2 as Lorenzo wanted to do,
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as in this case, the strike with starts with the CWA, manangers will try to do the work, then untrained (SCABS) will be hired & evenually the 2 sides AT&T and the union will work out deal, or AT&T will eventually loose so much $$$$ service of all kinds will be cut resulting in more layoff,pf new hires
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| |  alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
1 edit | said by Dogfather:A few dozen or a few hundred maybe, but certainly not 20,000. Workers aren't as easy to replace as you might think, certainly not in the numbers they're looking at. If it were, AT&T would have busted the union a long time ago. AT&T doesn't have to replace anyone, Management will step in to handle the workload. Everything is Automated, so a few weeks or a couple of months is no problem. The Strike will hurt the Employee's more than AT&T. AT&T saves a bundle of money in not paying the Employee's. I worked for PacBell on both sides, Non-Management and Management, and it was better on the Management side even working 12 hour days. Unions are outdated, but that is all they know how to do is Strike. This hurts the Employee's in pay, and exposes all the "Dead Weight." Unions had their time, but I think it's time for a change. | |
| | |  tim_kButtons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, KaseyPremium,VIP
join:2002-02-02
Stewartstown, PA
kudos:13 | Re: great time to hire said by alchav:AT&T doesn't have to replace anyone, Management will step in to handle the workload. Everything is Automated, so a few week or a couple of months is no problem. Oh OK,
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| | | | alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA |  Re: great time to hire
said by tim_k:said by alchav:AT&T doesn't have to replace anyone, Management will step in to handle the workload. Everything is Automated, so a few week or a couple of months is no problem. Oh OK, Yea, I guess you have good reason to laugh. I have been gone for over 10 years, and this is the same Management Group that came up with U-Verse. | |
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1 edit | said by alchav :
AT&T doesn't have to replace anyone, Management will step in to handle the workload. Everything is Automated, so a few week or a couple of months is no problem.
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uea oh LORRRRDDDDDY, remember EAL tried that same thing getting non union, & scab /management pilots to fly the company still went belly up,
as far as AT&T srepping in to help, most of their management have forgotten & never learned how to
push the thing a ma jig to make the whats ya ma calls its run the do dobber to get the computer to make that funny noise when its running right,
ots gonna get bad, with my luck I'd get an obscene phone call,then find out the one who dial the number dialed the wrong number
R U ever in for a suprise & a shock
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| | |  cfm117
join:2004-02-13
Woodland Hills, CA | Idk about the wireless side,but on the wired side,management cant handle anything. Not with the current workload. Being a field tech there's about 15-20 techs per 1 first level manager. Thats about 4-5 jobs a day per tech. Most field managers are broken ex-techs, and no serious work will get done. Not sure how long they can push out appointments or whatever with just a few managers per area doing the work. | |
| | | | alchav
join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA | Re: great time to hiresaid by cfm117:........,but on the wired side,management cant handle anything. Not with the current workload. Being a field tech there's about 15-20 techs per 1 first level manager. Thats about 4-5 jobs a day per tech. Most field managers are broken ex-techs, and no serious work will get done. Not sure how long they can push out appointments or whatever with just a few managers per area doing the work. Don't get your hopes up, there are plenty of Non-Management that will cross the line and work, plus Management in Staff jobs will come in to fill the holes. The work load will be cut down, but the job will get done. Don't start to think no one can do your job, there are plenty of talented people and Managers that will work longer hours and more efficiently. Like I said, all the "Dead Weight" will stand out like a sore thumb. | |
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