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Re: Lots of new Rogue Malware, Spyware programs release in '09 Are you sure ALL these are rogue? Some of them look pretty slick and I think I've seen 1 or 2 of them before. |
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 MarkAWBarry WhitePremium
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3 edits | said by cleaner09 :
Are you sure ALL these are rogue? Some of them look pretty slick and I think I've seen 1 or 2 of them before.
Yes i am sure all are rogue.
If you still don't believe me check here and see.
»www.bleepingcomputer.com/malware-removal/
»www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_ant···ware.htm |
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said by cleaner09 :
Are you sure ALL these are rogue? Some of them look pretty slick and I think I've seen 1 or 2 of them before.
Of course they are slick - these crooks know how to get customers!  |
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nuts. My wife runs Total Defender. I thought it was the one everyone recommends; I must be confused. Maybe I can cancel the payment.... |
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MarkAWBarry WhitePremium
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kudos:16 | said by cleaner09 :
nuts. My wife runs Total Defender. I thought it was the one everyone recommends; I must be confused. Maybe I can cancel the payment....
»forums.majorgeeks.com/showthread···t=163946
»pandalabs.pandasecurity.com/arch···der.aspx
»readerszone.com/security/total-d···rus.html
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said by cleaner09 :
nuts. My wife runs Total Defender. I thought it was the one everyone recommends; I must be confused. Maybe I can cancel the payment....
I would cancel the credit card. The point of these rogue anti-malware programs is to get you to first buy them and then use your credit card info to commit more fraud.
If your wife is running one of these programs, cancel the credit card as soon as possible and check/remove the malware that's installed on her computer.
Dispute the initial charge for Total Defender and any other bogus charges with the credit card company.
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join:2003-12-28 | reply to cleaner09
said by cleaner09 :
nuts. My wife runs Total Defender. I thought it was the one everyone recommends; I must be confused. Maybe I can cancel the payment....
You're certainly not alone.
This plethora of bogus AV/AS programs can confuse even the most knowledgeable.
MarkAW provided some pretty darned good links although I think Eric Howe's Spywarewarrior info is a bit outdated due to his current obligations.
I also think it's important to tell friends and family to never click on a pushed or pop-up link to any program.
If one wants a good legitimate program, they should seek it out and research it and then make the decision whether to download it or not.
The good proggies are out there for the asking. The bad stuff tries to lure or coerce the user into opting in.
Practice safe hex!! 
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said by Stem Bolt:said by cleaner09 :
nuts. My wife runs Total Defender. I thought it was the one everyone recommends; I must be confused. Maybe I can cancel the payment....
I would cancel the credit card. The point of these rogue anti-malware programs is to get you to first buy them and then use your credit card info to commit more fraud. If your wife is running one of these programs, cancel the credit card as soon as possible and check/remove the malware that's installed on her computer. Dispute the initial charge for Total Defender and any other bogus charges with the credit card company. Good advice. (Also: advise Wife 1.0 of potential downgrade to Girlfriend 2.0 ramifications...) |
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said by Thug21:said by cleaner09 :
Are you sure ALL these are rogue? Some of them look pretty slick and I think I've seen 1 or 2 of them before.
Of course they are slick - these crooks know how to get customers! cleaner09 is a fool or does not know how rogue software looks like. |
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MarkAWBarry WhitePremium
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kudos:16 | said by Oleg:said by Thug21:said by cleaner09 :
Are you sure ALL these are rogue? Some of them look pretty slick and I think I've seen 1 or 2 of them before.
Of course they are slick - these crooks know how to get customers! cleaner09 is a fool or does not know how rogue software looks like. 
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So I just got home and my wife refuses to uninstall Total Defender. I showed her the links and she still says they are wrong and wants to keep it. Those of you who are married know that it is (almost) always in the husband's best interest to keep his wife happy and I feel that if I pursue the matter further she will get even more upset and then start sulking and then nobody is happy. She is not a technical person but she does have a temper.
Currently I am trying to cancel the credit card but it is in her name (we have only been married a few months so it is an account she had when she was single) so I am not making much headway. Any further prodding on my part will undoubtedly end poorly for me. I don't want to hurt our new marriage and sometimes I guess you just have to pick your battles if you want to get lucky tonight  . |
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kudos:16 | said by cleaner09 :So I just got home and my wife refuses to uninstall Total Defender. I showed her the links and she still says they are wrong and wants to keep it. Those of you who are married know that it is (almost) always in the husband's best interest to keep his wife happy and I feel that if I pursue the matter further she will get even more upset and then start sulking and then nobody is happy. She is not a technical person but she does have a temper. Currently I am trying to cancel the credit card but it is in her name (we have only been married a few months so it is an account she had when she was single) so I am not making much headway. Any further prodding on my part will undoubtedly end poorly for me. I don't want to hurt our new marriage and sometimes I guess you just have to pick your battles if you want to get lucky tonight . My answer to this would be if it was my wife and she was saying this to me, the first and fore most thing i would do is take that computer off line until she smartens up and sees that what she has is a rogue program.
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said by cleaner09 :So I just got home and my wife refuses to uninstall Total Defender. I showed her the links and she still says they are wrong and wants to keep it. Those of you who are married know that it is (almost) always in the husband's best interest to keep his wife happy and I feel that if I pursue the matter further she will get even more upset and then start sulking and then nobody is happy. She is not a technical person but she does have a temper. Currently I am trying to cancel the credit card but it is in her name (we have only been married a few months so it is an account she had when she was single) so I am not making much headway. Any further prodding on my part will undoubtedly end poorly for me. I don't want to hurt our new marriage and sometimes I guess you just have to pick your battles if you want to get lucky tonight . Sorry my friend, if you do not like my opinion, but I think you are starting you marriage life with the wrong foot IF you are NOT able to even establish a simple grown up communication with her and btw, not everything is sex in a relationship between a couple.
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said by cleaner09 :So I just got home and my wife refuses to uninstall Total Defender. I showed her the links and she still says they are wrong and wants to keep it. Those of you who are married know that it is (almost) always in the husband's best interest to keep his wife happy and I feel that if I pursue the matter further she will get even more upset and then start sulking and then nobody is happy. She is not a technical person but she does have a temper. Currently I am trying to cancel the credit card but it is in her name (we have only been married a few months so it is an account she had when she was single) so I am not making much headway. Any further prodding on my part will undoubtedly end poorly for me. I don't want to hurt our new marriage and sometimes I guess you just have to pick your battles if you want to get lucky tonight . It sounds to me that your wife doesn't want to be proven wrong by you. She knows that she made a mistake but she will not show it...she is wearing the pants or wants to wear the pants...and so far she is winning. |
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kudos:1 | I've seen XP Police Antivirus up close and personal on a customer's computer. I've literally seen all of these baddies. Makes me laugh every time.
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OlegBellsouth FastaccessPremium
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KoRnGtL15Premium
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That is enough to cause a divorce if she is that mighty and power full with you. Just let her get took and when the fraud charges or identity theft kicks in. Just throw your hands up and say I told ya so. I would also stay away from that pc with your personal needs. Just let her use it or buy your own. |
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I am sensing a lot of jealousy and sexual frustration here. If my wife wants to keep rogue anti spyware on her computer and it makes her happy, I am fine with it. It is not worth it. My Mac is safe even if her Windows computer is infected and I don't use her computer at al.
I did some research and this rogue AV stuff isn't really malware. It is not like it is doing keystroke logging or man-in-the-browser attacks. »www.secureworks.com/research/thr···-part-1/ Quote: "As it turns out, AV XP 2008 does have some rudimentary anti-malware functionality."
If her CCN does get used for fraud, we are only liable for $50. Small price to pay to not have to deal with frustrations like you guys do. |
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Birmingham, AL | I was wrong about you by saying you do not know anything about crapware,but ones your wife see's charges on the credit card she would be thanking you |
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kudos:18 | reply to cleaner09
I think I would very quickly go get tested if she thinks that program is good to keep, as there are other possible lapses in good judgment that would greatly concern me.
Plus she is supporting crime, giving a criminal the means to have an easy life and may end up with her identity stolen. Fixing that is not that easy and the 50.00 liability doesn't undo the other damages. With a wife thinking like that, she likely has charges on the account that she can't account for, but pays anyway. I hope you don't end up like the guy living in the basement of a parents house in the TV Commercial on "freecreditreport.com" (which is a scam site also).
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