Rob2647
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Rochester, MI | I don't understand the need for DOCSIS 3 when carriers are not offering full DOCSIS 2 speeds. When we were with Comcast we were still on DOCSIS 1.1 But that was before U-verse really expanded in my area. |
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| said by Rob2647:understand the need for DOCSIS 3 when carriers are not offering full DOCSIS 2 speeds. When we were with Comcast we were still on DOCSIS 1.1 But that was before U-verse really expanded in my area. Docsis 1.1 or 1.0 are 42mbps/10mbps
Even speed of 50/10 offered only use a fraction of docsis 3 »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS
50/10 are only in select area that compete with verizon
OOL also do this so user won't switch to Verizon Fios, their competitor
OOL cap user for uploading for more then 15min to 150kbps is about 16kb/sec???
Optimum Online can raise the speed all they like but with usage and speed cap its an inferior service to verizon fios infinite usage. No caps and no extra charge for unlimited bandwidth.
For Comcast, Cox, Timewarner, Charter most user are not upgraded yet to higher speed of 10mbit,12mbit,16mbit,20mbit.
The reason is that if their is no higher offering in your area, you will never get the upgrade and will be stuck with their inferior mediocre speed tier of measly 5-8mbit,384k-1mbit |
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The town north of me still has DOCSIS 1.1 w/o powerboost! So when comcast says 100% by 2010 is a lie. But comcast has nothing to worry about, the DSL provider in that town fastest speed is 1.5/868 for 100$.....
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 jester121Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to Rob2647
Who says they can't skip D2 and go straight from D1.1. to D3? |
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iansltx
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Golden, CO
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Qwest goes up to 4.2/700...erm...5/896 here. Comcast is still DOCSIS 1.1. With caps and throttling they're getting lamer by the minute. One can only hope that we'll at least get DOCSIS 2.0 out here so upstream doesn't get congested so easily. DOCSIS 3 would be really nice but largely unnecessary due to Qwest's EPIC FAIL they try to pass off as competition.
Then again, I just referred a few people to Qwest. They use BitTorrent and
1) BitTorrent will be stabler on Qwest due to no throttling
2) They'd be on my node if they bought Comcast... |
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IF your not in an ool territory dont spread lies. OOL does not cap anymore.
So stop with the lies.
Ps cablevision uses docsis 2 and has the boost package which is 38/5 (advertised as 30/5). Download is uncapped meaning the only thing limiting your download speed is node congestion. Upload is at 5 .
Cablevision does not cap anymore. Infact you can have ports 80 and 25 opened up on boost and run those servers. I do not see fios doing that. |
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jimbopalmerTsar of all the Rushers
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Greenwood, MS
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said by powerspec88:The town north of me still has DOCSIS 1.1 w/o powerboost! So when comcast says 100% by 2010 is a lie. Had Comcast promised DOCSIS 3 by 2008 I can see how they lied, I can't see ANY WAY to know they lied about 2010 until it is over.
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| I know 2010 is far off, but i don't see in anyway getting DOCSIS 3.0 in a town less than 3,000 and offering 50Mbps+ speeds. Peculiar is the farthest town south from KC that has Comcast so i would guess their backbone to that town is not very big. Last time i checked, the fastest speed i could get from Comcast is 8/768, which all i can pull from that is ~6Mbps down at any time.
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 RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | reply to majortom1029
said by majortom1029:IF your not in an ool territory dont spread lies. OOL does not cap anymore. So stop with the lies. Ps cablevision uses docsis 2 and has the boost package which is 38/5 (advertised as 30/5). Download is uncapped meaning the only thing limiting your download speed is node congestion. Upload is at 5 . Cablevision does not cap anymore. Infact you can have ports 80 and 25 opened up on boost and run those servers. I do not see fios doing that. To be totally accurate, while the OOL download is uncapped (ie: You will get the max of 38Mbs that the node can handle while allowing for any current congestion related speed reduction OR the speed your source is feeding at after the Internet Latency is allowed for [ie: If it is feeding at 15Mbs, that is what you will get]), the upload is now capped at 5.5Mbs not the 5Mbs you state (when the download was switched from a 30Mbs cap to uncapped, the upload cap was raised from its old 5Mbs to its current 5.5Mbs). |
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said by majortom1029:IF your not in an ool territory dont spread lies. OOL does not cap anymore. So stop with the lies. Ps cablevision uses docsis 2 and has the boost package which is 38/5 (advertised as 30/5). Download is uncapped meaning the only thing limiting your download speed is node congestion. Upload is at 5 . Cablevision does not cap anymore. Infact you can have ports 80 and 25 opened up on boost and run those servers. I do not see fios doing that. This is true for cable internet anywhere in the world
OOL have upload cap, are you saying this has changed? like comcast its call invisible cap this mean that those who use most will be disconnected. Some Verizon Fios User are Ex OOL User Optimum Online Internet infact paved the way for speed throttling.
1. Max out your connection for 15min or over, you get shaped down to a measly 150kbps 
2. You use too much bandwidth... you get your connection shut off.
Comcast is doing this now but they didn't invent the wheel.
If other cable company does it why can't they?
I wish we do away with all these silly cap remember I am not in favor of limited use
I'm against it so don't get me wrong...
Either give us unlimited bandwidth, no traffic shaping or don't do business with any of us.
Instead of who offer the best speed, its who offer the most cap. |
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| I am saying there is no traffic shapping. You have basically 30/5 or 15/2 and can do anything you want with it. If you upload alot you will not get your traffic shaped. |
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jimbopalmerTsar of all the Rushers
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Greenwood, MS
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said by powerspec88:I know 2010 is far off, but i don't see in anyway getting DOCSIS 3.0 in a town less than 3,000 and offering 50Mbps+ speeds. Peculiar is the farthest town south from KC that has Comcast so i would guess their backbone to that town is not very big. Last time i checked, the fastest speed i could get from Comcast is 8/768, which all i can pull from that is ~6Mbps down at any time. 1) I am not saying they are not lying, I just couldn't (and can't) see how you know they are. You have not shown any facts that make your position stronger. So far it seems like mean spirited fear mongering on your part, but I await actual proof of Comcast lying. (Comcast has not claimed 50+ megabit speed everywhere, so far as I know, just DOCSIS 3)
2) You seem to be ignoring completely how nice it is for a company if all the equipment uses the same command set. Yes, that implies more capital cost to reduce operational costs, but if Comcast plans to bite that bullet, I applaud them.
3) When I buried cable and wired buildings for my LAN, the computers used 10 meg ethernet and the routers used 100 meg FDDI. (1992) Ten years later, those same fibers and wires were gigabit. Today the fiber can be 10 gigabit. Once you replace the electronics on each end, getting more speed out of fiber is pretty easy and copper is not impossible. If Comcast upgrades 100 per cent of its CMTS to DOCSIS 3, perhaps the bandwidth will be there, held back today by current electronics.
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