iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to me1212
Re: They are right, not that many have a REAL broadband.
Your phone company would have to use AdrenaLine. Four people might not be enough. As far as VoIP goes, DSL + AdrenaLine would be just as reliable as DSL without at shorter distances.
AdrenaLine + 1 mile might get you DSL. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Well there would be atleast 10+ people who would get the DSL, so I could most likly get that many people. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | Who's your telco? Bigger ones probably won't budge, smaller ones will. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | Embarq..... about 8 mi away is comcast. And I AMY be a little over a mile away from embarq. |
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN
 ·Charter Pipeline
| if you relly wanted to you could probably buy a t1 and share it among your neighbors (t1 costs around 550)if you and your frend split the costs among you it would be around 55 dollors per month
this would likely create some competation
as for getting dsl call embarq and tell them you have 10 ppl who want dsl in that area and see if they budge |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | What would the speeds be on the T1? |
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN | reply to zed260
well t1 speeds are 1500 kbs so around 150 kbps per user but since no one ever users there whole conntection 24/7 you could probably get around the same speed as what you get now maybe a bit faster
and would diffently be less latency |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to me1212
Embarq will probably do what you're askin,g if you call into the local office. They may only offer 768k DSL, but 768/384 for $44 is better than 512/128 for $55 right? |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
1 edit | That would be WAY better. Would they still do the dish bundle, I have dish?
And how is adrenaline pronuced? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
 ·Qwest.net
 ·magicjack.com
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| reply to zed260
Not much less latency though. A well-run wireless network has very low latency increases vs. a straight T1.
Personally, since you're relatively close to Kansas City, you could set up a microwave link (Trango stuff is relatively cheap) then get service from Level3 or Cogent in town (Cogent would be dirt cheap) and pipe it out to your place. It'd be a good bit cheaper than a T1 over the long run, and faster. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to me1212
T1s are commercial circuits, no bundling with anything. If you want Dish TV, just buy it separately. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to me1212
Oh, Embarq? They do DIsh bundling if I remember correctly. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
·Comcast
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| reply to me1212
If you were really crazy, you could ask someone like Joe's Datacenter (www.joesdatacenter.com) if you could get bandwidth from them and put an antenna on their building out to yours. THe upfront cost would be large, but after that the monthly cost should be low. Plus it'd be fast and you could share it with neighbors so it'd be even cheaper. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to iansltx
I have dish already. And what is this microwave link? And how much would the start up cost and monthly cost be roughly? |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| »www.trangobroadband.com/wireless···sa.shtml
That's the radio you'd want. Two of those would get you more bandwidth (set a radio link up halfway).
Monthly costs would be bandwidth and space wherever you're putting the radios. One would be on your place, and at least one wouldn't be.
If you were able to do such a thing, Joe's Datacenter might be able to cut you a deal so you'd pay a few hundred, tops, for a few megabits of bandwidth (a few X a T1) and space to mount the radio. You might even be able to get 10 Mbps for the price of a T1.
So, cheap, basically...you could call in and see what they'd do for you. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | cool. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| If you really wanted to get fancy and make your own WiSP, get some Cogent bandwidth in town for a few bucks per megabit, find a place to mount your radio, get an expensive Motorola Orthagon kit (with a nice amount of throughput) and use some WiMAX gear to distribute.
You could probably charge the same amount as KCWEB for setup and thus your equipment costs would be half made up for upfront. Charge a little less per month than they do ($45 maybe) and offer more bandwidth (2 Mbit down, 512 up maybe) and see how it goes. Just pulling stuff outta my rear end here but it just might work. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | they use cogent, and if you [ay 10 month is advance you get 2 free making it $45. And do you think I shoud ask about the arenaline(how do you say that?) on the embarq board? |
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zed260
join:2007-09-30
Cleveland, TN | reply to zed260
you should ask embarq it wont hurt |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| reply to me1212
Go ahead and ask on the Embarq board. I know either Embarq or CenturyTel are actually using that exact tech. And they're merging...but CenturyTel only offers 512/128 or 512/256 DSL in extended reach areas if I remember correctly.
On Joe's Data Center the cost to put up a radio might be a lot higher than just putting a server in their place. |
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