Topic 'Re: What's left?' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21910923 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:15:52 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:15:52 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21927272 said by me1212:

I cannot vote, yet not 18, also I never said the tax payer should help, just that I want less costly internet. BTW I would have voted for Mcain.
You might not want to hear this, but if you think there is enough market for high speed internet where you live start your own WISP. If you really feel there is demand, you can purchase 'wisp in a box' kits for a few thousand bucks (even less for lower quality/home brew gear).

As for McCain, I voted for him too even though I would have preferred a better candidate. :p
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21927272 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:16:36 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21926094 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21926094 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:27:06 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21925993 said by elray:

said by me1212:

some areas can't get 768k for less than $80 a month, i'm one of the people there, I would LOVE 2m for $50 or less.
I don't get it. If the market in your area is so sparse that it costs $80/month for 768K, what is the problem? You choose to live there.

Why are the taxpayers supposed to subsidize you?
Because he voted for Obama, thats why. :uhh:
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21925993 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:08:37 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21925973 said by me1212:

some areas can't get 768k for less than $80 a month, i'm one of the people there, I would LOVE 2m for $50 or less.
I don't get it. If the market in your area is so sparse that it costs $80/month for 768K, what is the problem? You choose to live there.

Why are the taxpayers supposed to subsidize you?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21925973 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:03:42 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21914245 is shocked needs a reality check. The real question is how this will impact us long term; is it the end or the beginning? Welcome to the next four years people! I expect pork to be the norm going forward, so hang on for the ride. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21914245 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:33:44 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21913010 said by Porky 33 :

This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill. What use is this money going to? to help farmers herd cattle? And no stimulus to areas that can use higher speeds than 768kbs or 2Mbps ....

Where is the investment in Broadband or the promised higher speeds and special tax breaks for those companies who do invest in fiber or higher speeds?

" Cable-industry lobbyists complained that the 100Mbps watermark was too fast"

You mean they can't keep up? Who are they to decide what is too fast? Explain why other countries are putting out 1Gbps (GPON) why would these much smaller countries need it and yet the US doesn't????

What politicking .... Lobbyists win again. good job. Nice to know "YOUR" elected officials are keeping an eye out for you rather than their pocketbook....

Look at the facts: Congress members have a higher percentage of criminal record than the average person in NY City alone.

And these are the guys running a country that people put there.
I got a bridge for sale......
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21913010 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:49:31 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21912254
I'd gladly give a kidney for a politician that actually knows what he/she is doing. This is just as painful as watching The View!
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"When I was in junior high school, the teachers voted me the student most likely to end up in the electric chair."---Sylvestor Stallone]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21912254 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:38:52 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911819
Having worked for a couple of large corporations, accountability isn't that great in the private sector either. There are so many people publicly and privately there are unqualified in the jobs they are doing, or are just too lazy to take the time to learn. In the corporations I've worked at, making some arbitrary number was the only thing that mattered regardless of how that numbers was met.

I would like this stimulus to work, but the lack of accountability and greed will probably derail it. There is something about having access to a large sum of money that makes it hard for people to control themselves, especially free money.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911819 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:30:52 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911321 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911321 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:17:02 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911230 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911230 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:01:23 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911113 said by me1212:

some areas can't get 768k for less than $80 a month, i'm one of the people there, I would LOVE 2m for $50 or less.
Is this USA??? Crazy!
USA=3rd world country
YEAP...
only in select area do you see something a little better then this...
This is by design.
Surewest charges much more because their is no competition on fiber and also its very limited in America. Only CA and KS! 20/20 for 91.99 and 50/50 for 191.99
even if you can get these i doubt most can afford it

The only thing we can afford is 39.99 for 5/5 or 53.99 for 10/10

Oh well thats USA, land of the most ignorant and enslaved of all :)
Have fun with our slave band oops i meant asymmetrical dsl and cable crappy 10/1-20/1 ratio :D :D :D
ENJOY :D :D :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911113 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:40:18 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911051 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911051 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:30:15 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911011 said by Karl Bode:

This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill.
Maybe. The mapping provision could be useful if done correctly. The problem with this country's approach to broadband has traditionally been follow up. The bill could contain a million brilliant propositions, but if nobody accurately maps broadband coverage, or nobody holds anybody accountable across a wide slew of well-lobbied agencies, it all means nothing.


Yes, sounds like the only thing in the bill that is worth while.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911011 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:26:03 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911006 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21911006 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:25:40 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21910991 said by Karl Bode:

This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill.
Maybe.The problem with this country's approach to broadband has traditionally been follow up. The bill could contain a million brilliant propositions, but if nobody accurately maps broadband coverage, or nobody holds anybody accountable across a wide slew of well-lobbied agencies, it all means nothing.
You could replace "broadband" with just about anything :(
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Where is the investment in Broadband or the promised higher speeds and special tax breaks for those companies who do invest in fiber or higher speeds?Taken out, luckily. I hated that provision. Most large operators are already making healthy profits on broadband. The largest would have recieved tax money to line their profits more as it was previously written because they have a rollout of "next-gen" internet going (mainly just in large cities). We would have basically been paying them twice and that was a really stupid idea.

What they need to do is press for more competition and prevent companies from trying to derail munis (especially in areas that most companies would never serve without regulation anyway).

I don't see much of that in there, but at least better broadband mapping will be a start.
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- "Techie" Jim]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21910986 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:22:53 EDT Re: What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21910964 This sounds like it is now a Pork Bill. Maybe. The mapping provision could be useful if done correctly. The problem with this country's approach to broadband has traditionally been follow up. The bill could contain a million brilliant propositions, but if nobody accurately maps broadband coverage, or nobody holds anybody accountable across a wide slew of well-lobbied agencies, it all means nothing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Whats-left-21910964 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:19:58 EDT What's left? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Whats-left-21910923
Where is the investment in Broadband or the promised higher speeds and special tax breaks for those companies who do invest in fiber or higher speeds?

" Cable-industry lobbyists complained that the 100Mbps watermark was too fast"

You mean they can't keep up? Who are they to decide what is too fast? Explain why other countries are putting out 1Gbps (GPON) why would these much smaller countries need it and yet the US doesn't????

What politicking .... Lobbyists win again. good job. Nice to know "YOUR" elected officials are keeping an eye out for you rather than their pocketbook....

Look at the facts: Congress members have a higher percentage of criminal record than the average person in NY City alone.

And these are the guys running a country that people put there.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Whats-left-21910923 Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:13:24 EDT