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markofmayhem
I can haz competition?
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QUALITY

Remember when 18 mbps MPEG2 was "HD"?

I do.

I'd rather have 20 channels like this than the 100+ crap all providers with the exception of Verizon are offering. Fios is superior, it's a shame it's a Verizon product: Low availability, horrible customer service, questionable billing.... oh wait, that's all of them! Alright, bring on more Fios!


grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

Considering that ESPN was never and currently isn't 18mbps.


markofmayhem
I can haz competition?
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ESPN is 720P, it doesn't need to be.

Your point?



grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

by your logic ESPN isn't HD



jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA

reply to markofmayhem
Verizon allocates up to 18 mbps MPEG-2 for every HD channel, but that doesn't mean every HD channel is taking advantage of the bandwidth. Also, many of the broadcasters have moved to MPEG-4, which Verizon must convert to MPEG-2 before sending the signal out.


markofmayhem
I can haz competition?
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reply to grydlok
Not even close, sir. Thanks for trolling.

I'd like for you to point out where "isn't" or "ESPN" was anywere in my statement.

Fios is the only provider left with channels in MPEG2 approaching 18 mbps. Comcast has a few down in the 12's, 1080i no less. DirecTV and Dish moved to MPEG4 to alleviate a bit of the quality loss at running a dismal bitrate. While MPEG4 lets the foreground take precidence, the 16-bit color blocked background is attrocious on larger quality displays. Quality has been sacrificed for quantity. I'd rather quality.



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
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reply to markofmayhem

said by markofmayhem:

Remember when 18 mbps MPEG2 was "HD"?

Normal over the air broadcasts are 19.2mbps with mpeg2 transport and most channels actually broadcast less than that due to subchannels.


grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA
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reply to markofmayhem
1st of All FIOS passes on what it receives. If it's not receiving 18meg it can't pass 18 meg.
2nd why would they pass 18mbps when 19.4mbps for 1080i.

Not all broadcasters transmit 19.4 mmbps or even close to.

The next time you bring a feeble attempt to call someone a troll have the numbers right.



grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

reply to jmn1207
Yup. Like HBO


xlimitx

join:2001-12-31
Wilkes Barre, PA

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reply to grydlok
Hrm,

I beg to differ, ESPN pushes greater than 18Mbps almost all day long.

I just checked our statmux this morning and they're running at 18.793Mbps along with ESPN2 and ESPN NEWS.

EDIT:

I watched two commmercial breaks and they did drop down to 12Mbps then, but during regular programming they're at 18Mbps consistently.


xlimitx

join:2001-12-31
Wilkes Barre, PA

reply to jmn1207
Can someone say bit stuffing? =)


markofmayhem
I can haz competition?
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reply to grydlok

said by grydlok:

1st of All FIOS passes on what it receives. If it's not receiving 18meg it can't pass 18 meg.
2nd why would they pass 18mbps when 19.4mbps for 1080i.

Not all broadcasters transmit 19.4 mmbps or even close to.

The next time you bring a feeble attempt to call someone a troll have the numbers right.
Yes, FIOS pushes what it receives, remember when cable used to do that? If you allocate a 19.4 mbps pipe to a feed, roughly 18 is used for video. The numbers were correct, I did check, then called out the troll. Feeble is incorrect as are your numbers.

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