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<description><![CDATA[Its a Secret posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/633187" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=633187');">DataRiker</a>:</small><br><br>I guess what they are implicitly saying is that all encrypted traffic will be throttled now.<br> </div> I wonder if encrypted email will bite the dust as well.<br><small>--<br>"In the future, that which is not mandatory will be illegal"</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:04:56 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DataRiker posted : Yes you are correct that i am not in the test area but about 6 months ago any torrents would experience unusually slow speeds which seemed to fix itself after enabling encrytion, didn't do any sophisticated research.<br><br>i don't have enough time right now to explain the emule behavior but clients would just drop off.<br><br>have not tested without encryption recently for a baseline<br><br>have not had the need too, all my torrents now reach over 1 MB/s (well with seeds that is)<br><br>actually I am very happy with cox for now, works awesome, except for that brief time period]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:33:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[funchords posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/633187" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=633187');">DataRiker</a>:</small><br><br>I guess what they are implicitly saying is that all encrypted traffic will be throttled now.<br><br>ever p2p application i use now has encryption options, eg bit torrent, and emule (they call it obfuscation), which until now seems to have been working, so I guess i can kiss that goodbye<br> </div>Well you aren't in the trial area (Kansas and Arkansas) so you shouldn't be noticing anything.  Are you?<br><br>Forget about the encryption options in BitTorrent and eMule as they are not likely to be effective.  Today's DPI includes looking across multiple packets and the pattern/directions/lengths of the packets to guess at the protocols.  So it'll be necessary (once again) for the P2P obfuscation to evolve to break up those predictable patterns.   And so the world turns.  Fortunately, the P2P developers can do this easily.  <br><br>SOAPBOX<br>  Profit-driven network vendors get rich selling these new "solutions" to the foolish business suits inside ISPs (who haven't yet matured to realize the futility of it all).  Some tech libertarians think we ought not have Network Neutrality regulation because ultimately, the Internet works around roadblocks anyway so regulations would be unnecessary.  True to a point, but regulations would help prevent ISPs from making such dumb decisions in the first place and would return network vendors back to job 1 -- innovating in the space that actually grows the capacity of the network, not simply reshuffles it.<br>/SOAPBOX<br><small>--<br>Robb Topolski -= <A HREF="http://funchords.com/">funchords.com</a> =- Hillsboro, Oregon  -- KJ7RL<br><i>... <A HREF="/forum/r21874111-Do-Something">Do something!</a> ...</i></small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:31:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[DataRiker posted : I guess what they are implicitly saying is that all encrypted traffic will be throttled now.<br><br>ever p2p application i use now has encryption options, eg bit torrent, and emule (they call it obfuscation), which until now seems to have been working, so I guess i can kiss that goodbye]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:00:20 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[chemaupr posted : not a fan of any type of control like this. However, they have been very forthcoming with information. Will see how it goes.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:34:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[lewism posted : Yeah right ...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:29:10 EDT</pubDate>
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