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cypherstream
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join:2004-12-02
Reading, PA
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reply to drchud

Re: Comcast DVR Repeat

MTV and VH1 shows are most notorious. Also Jon & Kate Plus 8 on TLC HD.


joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA

said by cypherstream:

MTV and VH1 shows are most notorious. Also Jon & Kate Plus 8 on TLC HD.
and yet, the Jon and Kate series has titles for all episodes. I set up a manual weekly repeat recording to not get a dozen of these every week.

drchud

join:2006-01-18

joetaxpayer,
your missing the point. we should NOT have to do all that run around bullshit. dvr should be smart enough to record what you want it to record. not 12 repeats. and i know its not really the dvr that is the problem, more fault falls on the guide provider for the infor they supply to comcast (gemstar i think???)
secondly, jon and kate might have episode despcritions for the first airingm, but many, many, many cable network shows that reair later in the night, do NOT have titles. they have a generic description of the show. so like many of us who record big network shows during primetime, and TRY to record cable shows later in the night (the 2nd of 3rd airing) have problems. there is only a generic show description for these instances


bicker

join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA

Some of the "smart enough"-ness you desire is a patented idea owned by someone else. While what you want is indeed desirable, it is not reasonable to expect to get it unless you go the route towards the owner of the patent. In this case, it means switching to TiVo. You're lucky that that is even an option.

Which shows are still providing no program data for later-that-day rebroadcasts? As far as I can tell, what you're saying is not the case for Jon and Kate:

»tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings···02460078

Every episode has an episode title. And no episode that has a description for one broadcast fails to have a description for its rebroadcasts.



cypherstream
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With Tivo potentially adding VOD support with Seachange »www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2342255,00.asp

I will have to seriously consider it. The home networking connectivity to the PC, the extra Tivo features and ability to build one with a large 1TB drive make it a serious contender.

Comcast is now just starting focus groups to get user input on the guide and features. Until that is rolled out, I would book a 2 year lead time if not more (especially since some local systems lag behind others) until we see anything out of it. So my decision would be, if Tivo VOD is available, is it worth it to purchase the unit for only 3 years or so, until Comcast catches up, and then sell the Tivo on E-Bay... Or will purchasing the Tivo provide me with insurance against Comcast, if they never scale their DVR to that level of specification.


drchud

join:2006-01-18

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reply to bicker

said by bicker:

Some of the "smart enough"-ness you desire is a patented idea owned by someone else. While what you want is indeed desirable, it is not reasonable to expect to get it unless you go the route towards the owner of the patent. In this case, it means switching to TiVo. You're lucky that that is even an option.
Do other providers have this same problem? Im asking seriously because i do not know. My brother has Direct Tv and i asked him about it. he says they do not have any problem with this issue. I dont know about Dish or Fios or other providers, and im just wondering if their users have ot deal with this "un-smart-ness" as well.

Which shows are still providing no program data for later-that-day rebroadcasts? As far as I can tell, what you're saying is not the case for Jon and Kate:
Ok Jon and Kate was just an example. personally i dont watch it. i was just assuming that it, like most other cable rebroadcast shows, dont have proper info in the guide (either its a generic description about the show or it fails to list it as NEW or REPEAT). to name a few PSYCH, MONK, BURN NOTICE, THE BEAST, ANY OF THE REALITY SHOWS on MTV or VH1, MANY SHOWS ON FOOD NETWORK.


joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA

reply to drchud

said by drchud:

joetaxpayer,
your missing the point. we should NOT have to do all that run around bullshit.
A little angry are you? I'm not missing the point at all.
1) OP asked for examples.
2) Human nature what it is, many replies will not be exactly what's requested.
3) I confirmed one example, along with a data point. i.e. A show that HAS program title, yet repeat records, and offered my workaround.

(3) also implies that titles alone are enough, the data must include a filed that has a 'repeat' flag, I am supposing. I employ the scientific method to find answers, I was not suggesting that anyone should just live with a technical issue that irks them. As I think bicker stated, the fault lies not in the DVR but the data it's pulling. My J&K example was to show the problem goes beyond titles. Title won't solve the issue. You still think I am clueless?

bicker

join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA

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reply to drchud

said by drchud:

Do other providers have this same problem?
Yes. It's not really a matter of "providers" but rather a matter of DVR software. iGuide and Passport and the rest are not able to take advantage of patented features withheld as a competitive advantage by the patent owner, or available for licensing only for substantially high licensing fees, unsupportable by the extra revenue paying such fees would generate from subscribers.


joetaxpayer
I'M Here Till Thursday

join:2001-09-07
Sudbury, MA

said by bicker:

said by drchud:

Do other providers have this same problem?
Yes. It's not really a matter of "providers" but rather a matter of DVR software.
I think I'm agreeing, bicker. The TiVo has issues with same shows the Comcast box did.

bicker

join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA

If that is the case, then that time the problem was with the data provided by the network.


drchud

join:2006-01-18

reply to joetaxpayer
1. i am not angry
2. i never suggested you were clueless
3. if you re-read my post top of this page, you will see that I also recognize that it is not necessarily the dvr which is at fault but the guide data.



fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
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join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA

reply to cypherstream

said by cypherstream:

if Tivo VOD is available,
I already have access to Netflix, Jaman, and YouTube, with more on the way. Also, when you have the Desktop Plus software and linked to your computer, you have access to an incredible amount of "on demand" content. What other "VOD" are you looking for?
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