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whocares
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Some stations plan digital switch despite delay vote

WASHINGTON — With millions of U.S. viewers still apparently unprepared for the nation’s switch to digital TV, nearly 500 full-power television stations across the nation are preparing to move ahead with the transition anyway and drop traditional over-the-air broadcasts Feb. 17.

The loss of signals in those markets means that some viewers will no longer get television reception unless they have installed a digital converter box and, in some cases, purchased a new antenna.
Nielsen Co. has estimated that 6.5 million over-the-air households are unprepared for the “digital transition.” Elderly, Latino and low-income households are believed to be most affected.
“If we have a serious natural disaster and folks don’t have a TV on which to receive updates, that’s a problem,” said =============
»www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/tec···126.html
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N10Cities
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KingofCola

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reply to whocares
If we have a serious naturtal desaster, the power is usually out. Everyone listens to battery operated radios for announcements. If the power comes back on plug in the radio or if you have a computer go to cnn.com and you got news.

34702533

join:2006-07-31
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reply to whocares
From FOX news
When Congress postponed the mandatory transition to digital TV until June, it also gave stations the option to stick to the originally scheduled date of Feb. 17. »www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489477,00.html
Stations can switch if they want to. Our Houston stations will stick with the June 12th date.


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reply to whocares
One of my local stations I know for a fact is switching off their analog tonight. I'm not sure about the other ones we have in our area though. But I already have satellite and a computer with a Digital TV tuner in it, so I'm pretty much set. I was over at a friend's hooking up their DSL when I saw the notice flash across their screen. We were watching Fox, so I'm not sure if Time Warner had inserted that into the video feed.


Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
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reply to 34702533
But they require FCC approval, so the FCC can say yea or nay.

34702533

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said by Eat Me See Profile :

But they require FCC approval, so the FCC can say yea or nay.
Missed that --- problem with scanning rather than throughly reading.

On Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission ordered stations that still plan to turn off analog signals on Feb. 17 to notify the FCC by Monday.

Acting Chairman Michael Copps said the commission could prohibit stations from making the switch if doing so is not in the public interest.

For instance, if all stations in a market want to turn off early, that would draw FCC scrutiny, he said at a commission meeting.

RadioDoc
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They had to file for an STA to go dark either way. This is nothing new, and your lack of knowledge of the process is staggering.

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The FCC is trying to make sure at least one TV station in a market keeps their analog service on through June 12. It's a rather silly thing at this late date but as long as you weren't the last station in the market to file for an analog shutdown STA you'd get it.

As an aside, they had to file one for the original cut-off date too. The "approval" process is mostly administrative.

JPL
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reply to whocares
said by whocares See Profile :

WASHINGTON — With millions of U.S. viewers still apparently unprepared for the nation’s switch to digital TV, nearly 500 full-power television stations across the nation are preparing to move ahead with the transition anyway and drop traditional over-the-air broadcasts Feb. 17.

The loss of signals in those markets means that some viewers will no longer get television reception unless they have installed a digital converter box and, in some cases, purchased a new antenna.
Nielsen Co. has estimated that 6.5 million over-the-air households are unprepared for the “digital transition.” Elderly, Latino and low-income households are believed to be most affected.
“If we have a serious natural disaster and folks don’t have a TV on which to receive updates, that’s a problem,” said =============
»www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/tec···126.html
Actually, per Nielson, that number is 5.8 million as of the beginning of February. But Congress, in their infinite wisdom, decided that too much money is what's called for here. First off, the notion that the original pool of money ran out isn't quite right. Yeah they allocated all the coupons per what was in the original pot, but the coupons expire after 90 days. Once they do, the money goes back into the pot to go to the person at the top of the list.

As others have said, there are lots of people who got coupons 'just in case' they thought they would need them. Alot decided not to use them and the money goes back into the pot.

As for Congress's role in this. In the latest stimulus bill, they allocated an additional $650 million for new coupons. Ok, let's do the math here, shall we? Let's assume that Nielson's numbers are correct. Let's also assume that every single one of those households needs converter boxes. And further let's assume that NO more money frees up as existing coupons expire. And finally let's assume that every one of those households gets the maximum allocation of 2 coupons per house. That means that we would need:

5.8 Million houses * $80/house (each coupon is worth $40) = $464 million.

But they allocated $650 million? What's the extra $186 million for?


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reply to whocares
What about radio??? They still work and besides... the most common instances when emergency information must be delivered, power goes out anyway. People, including the government, have forgotten that radio is still widely used and the best alternative to television in an emergency.


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said by whocares See Profile :

“If we have a serious natural disaster and folks don’t have a TV on which to receive updates, that’s a problem,” said =============
»www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/tec···126.html
I lived at ground zero during the Northridge Earthquake. TV didn't help me one bit, since I had no power for days. I relied on the radio and survived. Actually I had a TV that could operate on a battery or car cigarette lighter, but didn't bother. With digital TV, I haven't seen any of those cheapo handheld or itty-bitty TVs sold anymore. Are we doomed because of this? I don't think so.


exocet_cm
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 reply to KingofCola
Exactly. If we have a serious natural disaster then look out your freakin window.

hurfy
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reply to RadioDoc
lol, that'll teach people.

They left the CW network running on analog here

Possibly the FOX station, the linked page says FOX and gives the call letters for CBS.

I assume the ION network is still on analog but they don't seem to be rolling over to digital. Low-power station perhaps? Not interested enough to try analog pass-thru to check


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said by N10Cities See Profile :

Uhhh.....yea.....but they have to have PERMISSION from the FCC before they can switch anyway. If they do it without permission, they can be nailed with big $$$$$ fines. Your point?
Fines are like taxes. They should just not pay them... they they'd get jobs in the Obama Administration.

Just wait folks... when the new deadline approaches, they will extend it again.

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cdru
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said by JPL See Profile :

But they allocated $650 million? What's the extra $186 million for?
This is the government were talking about. A 40% markup for "administrative costs" actually sounds a little low.


Chiadi

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Hey, don't try to confuse us with real world facts and figures - we're trying to create a Socialist Nanny state here, dangit!
"No Idiot Left Behind".


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reply to JPL
About 40 million coupons have been requested by the end of 2008, valued at $1.6 billion. Households that subscribe to Cable or Sat for primary TV may still use over-air-antenna OTA) for other TVs within the home. It is likely many people ordered coupons who do not really need them. As they expire money is made available to issues new coupons. That is what is happening now. Coupon program maxed out funding and is only able to issue coupons as previously issued one expire.

The additional funding is designed to speed up ability to issue coupons. When program expires unused funds will be returned to Treasury.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CECB

/tom


jhboricua
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It would be the same if it were the free market, except the extra 40% goes to the company CEO and his boys.
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