knightmb
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Re: Oh NOEZ!
said by pnh102  :According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming! Alarmist are we? 
Actually, just proves that even with the deadline, a lot of stations weren't *really* ready like everyone thought they were. So all the nay sayers about all those *other* people who will never be ready no matter what, turns out the stations were the same way.
Where I live, all the major stations didn't bother with the switch over, surprising it was the little "UHF" stations that were quicker to change over than them, go figure 
Enjoy your DTV or what few stations have switched. Last I checked with all of those *other* people, a lot of outlining areas can't pick up the *new* stations that switched last night, too bad I guess. 
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| The STATIONS ARE ready. It's Joe Sixpack consumer who doesn't realize that just about all (but not 100%) broadcasters have been broadcasting a digital as well as analog signal for the past couple years.
Even at that , as a nation we are over 95% ready (between cable/satellite and digital TVs / converter boxes) - the original legislation only required 85% for a particular market to go.
And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared.
Let's just require all FOX stations to power down analog on "American Idol" night and we'll see how fast that crowd will get ready.... |
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said by knightmb :Where I live, all the major stations didn't bother with the switch over, surprising it was the little "UHF" stations that were quicker to change over than them, go figure Almost all stations except those forced to flash-cut on their existing analog channel have been broadcasting a digital signal for months...some for years...now. This is not so much a switchover than a discontinuance of redundant transmission.
Those little UHF stations probably could not afford the cost of running their 100 KW+ transmitters past today and shut them off as planned (and budgeted).
Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering.
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knightmb
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| said by RadioDoc :Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering. I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet.
Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow?
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said by scooper :The STATIONS ARE ready. It's Joe Sixpack consumer who doesn't realize that just about all (but not 100%) broadcasters have been broadcasting a digital as well as analog signal for the past couple years. Even at that , as a nation we are over 95% ready (between cable/satellite and digital TVs / converter boxes) - the original legislation only required 85% for a particular market to go. And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared. Let's just require all FOX stations to power down analog on "American Idol" night and we'll see how fast that crowd will get ready.... LOL and yet probably so true , the last part certainly deserves a thumbs up. 
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It's mostly a ratings decision. They're all ready to go and have been for months...years in some cases where the post-transition channel is the same as the interim channel.
The smaller stations have little motivation and less budget to keep analog going.
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CylonRed
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said by knightmb :said by pnh102 :According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming! Alarmist are we? Actually, just proves that even with the deadline, a lot of stations weren't *really* ready like everyone thought they were. So all the nay sayers about all those *other* people who will never be ready no matter what, turns out the stations were the same way. Probably more correct to say that most of those station that do not switch did not get the special dispensation from the FCC. I bet the vast majority were able to go digital but the FCC would not let them - thank god my area is not affected - they are all going digital today like all of them should have done. |
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said by knightmb :said by RadioDoc :Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering. I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet. Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow? Umm, there is no such thing as The WB and/or UPN anymore. Both of those networks shut down a couple of years ago, and formed The CW. |
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said by CylonRed :Probably more correct to say that most of those station that do not switch did not get the special dispensation from the FCC. I bet the vast majority were able to go digital but the FCC would not let them - thank god my area is not affected - they are all going digital today like all of them should have done. Nope. Most were ready to go technically but someone upstairs blinked. Nothing like a ratings period to shrink corporate weenie.
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Bloom County | Nope to what? The post seems to at one point - agree with me that most were ready to go, but then backtracks inthe same sentence. |
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said by taz291819 :said by knightmb :said by RadioDoc :Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering. I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet. Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow? Umm, there is no such thing as The WB and/or UPN anymore. Both of those networks shut down a couple of years ago, and formed The CW. And the former UPN stations are now "MyNetwork TV." |
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RadioDoc
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Nope, your assumption that they aren't ready to go is incorrect. That some suit in an office 1000 miles away got cold feet doesn't make the station any less ready, and the FCC is not standing in their way unless you're the last station in a market to turn off analog.
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CylonRed
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| I never made any assumption that the stations were not ready to go. Actually stated the opposite - that most WERE ready but did not get the FCC ok to go on time. Don;t care if it was because of management cold feet - I never made hte assumption most stations were not ready. |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | You assert that the FCC prevented them from turning off the analog. That is incorrect.
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CylonRed
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| Ok - that is a bit different than your previous posting. Not knowing any owners (but I would bet you don't either) and not knowing if the FCC has nay fines/penalties possible - it was an educated guess as to the real reason why they did not switch instead of the reason the post I replied to assigns (which was they were not ready).
If they blinked or got cold feet because of the FCC 'ruling' - then my post is still 100% correct. They could switch but the FCC prevented it - real or imagined by management - it makes no difference. |
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RadioDoc
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| Not really. Your argument is that the FCC somehow prevented them from shutting analog off. There is no "ruling"...most had already applied for the Feb. 17 go-dark STA and they did not reapply once the deadline was extended for purely hysterical reasons. It's called February Sweeps and television programmers are even more skittish than radio programmers.
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said by Eat Me :And the former UPN stations are now "MyNetwork TV." yep and one and awhile they do a programing on switching to DTV |
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The FCC denied the requests of 106 stations to switch to digital (only) on grounds that "early termination (of analog broadcasting) poses a significant risk of substantial public harm." The stations in question didn't meet all of the FCC's requirements for an "early" switchover.
They're willin' to switch, wantin' to switch, now... waitin'... till June. |
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