Topic 'Re: Oh NOEZ!' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21929286 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:55:42 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:55:42 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21935490 said by ifarrell:

The FCC can deny a station shutting down it's analog transmission if it is in the public's best interest.
See this article.
»www.tvtechnology.com/article/74204
Yes, they can. However, they didn't exercise that authority except in a few instances, less than 5% of all stations, and only when it was the last analog standing in a market. By the way, they could also order the station shut down entirely if necessary "if it is in the public's best interest", so that is not terribly relevant.
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Once again, the chiefs may be happy with the delay; however, the troops (operations and engineering staff) largely aren't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21935263 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:39:00 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21934500 said by BF69:

Everyone would just think he was a typcial slacker of his generation.
Every generation has slackers, at least in the eyes of the generations older then the accused.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21934500 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:55:14 EDT Re: "I want my DTV and I WANT IT NOW" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21934351 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21934351 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:38:14 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21934332 See this article.
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The FCC is not the reason the huge majority of stations decided to wait until June 12. The original assertion was that "most of those station that do not switch did not get the special dispensation from the FCC". Most did not switch because they decided not to.

By the way, the original deadline is/was tonight at midnight.
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•Providing the low-level "nightlight" service for 60 days after the switch to ensure viewers can access public affairs and news information safely;
• Increasing educational efforts on how to make the switch from analog to digital signals, including how to set up converter boxes;
• Providing toll-free telephone numbers and local "walk-in" centers to help educate viewers on the switch and what they need to do;
• Ensuring that DTV transition information is broadcast in both English and Spanish and accessible to the disabled."

Seems like the same ole rigamarole to me but, denied is still denied.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932175 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:29:23 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932146 said by RadioDoc:

Because they were the last ones to file their STA, and would leave their market with no analog service. Had they gotten their shit together earlier they would not have been standing without a chair when the music stopped.
Then the comment "the FCC didn't deny anyone permission" is false now isn't it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932146 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:22:47 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932115 --
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You assert that the FCC prevented them from turning off the analog. That is incorrect.
Then explain how 43 stations were not allowed by the FCC to shut down analog?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932096 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:13:51 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932076 said by scooper:

And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared.But you can't state actual facts. If you say it's the 25 year olds that aren't ready, not the 75 year olds, you wouldn't get the sympathy you need to get support for the delay. No one cares if some 25 year old failed to get ready or educate themselves. Everyone would just think he was a typcial slacker of his generation.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932076 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:10:50 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21932046 --
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They're willin' to switch, wantin' to switch, now... waitin'... till June.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21931931 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:42:55 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21931653 said by fifty nine:

And the former UPN stations are now "MyNetwork TV."
yep and one and awhile they do a programing on switching to DTV]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21931653 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:49:56 EDT Re: "I want my DTV and I WANT IT NOW" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21931411 said by CrazyFingers:

I for one have zero respect for people with loose signals. I mean, what kind of example does it set for our children when signals are just flopping around loose, all willy-nilly?
I say it is high time we tightened up our loose signals, and quickly!
Doesn't the Duct Tape/ WD40 dichotomy get enacted here?
Duct Tape for the loose thing you wish to keep in place, WD40 for the things too tight you wish to loosen.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21931411 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:07:29 EDT Re: "I want my DTV and I WANT IT NOW" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21931280 I say it is high time we tightened up our loose signals, and quickly!
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If they blinked or got cold feet because of the FCC 'ruling' - then my post is still 100% correct. They could switch but the FCC prevented it - real or imagined by management - it makes no difference.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930560 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:40:43 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930518 --
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said by knightmb:

said by RadioDoc:

Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering.
I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet.

Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow? :D
Umm, there is no such thing as The WB and/or UPN anymore. Both of those networks shut down a couple of years ago, and formed The CW.
And the former UPN stations are now "MyNetwork TV."]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930433 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:20:23 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930421 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930421 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:18:33 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930253 said by CylonRed:

Probably more correct to say that most of those station that do not switch did not get the special dispensation from the FCC. I bet the vast majority were able to go digital but the FCC would not let them - thank god my area is not affected - they are all going digital today like all of them should have done. Nope. Most were ready to go technically but someone upstairs blinked. Nothing like a ratings period to shrink corporate weenie.
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said by RadioDoc:

Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering.
I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet.

Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow? :D
Umm, there is no such thing as The WB and/or UPN anymore. Both of those networks shut down a couple of years ago, and formed The CW.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930141 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:31:19 EDT Re: "I want my DTV and I WANT IT NOW" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21930137 said by holycrow :

Seriously, wishing death on people? For what? It matters so much to you that you get your DTV, and get it NOW, that you'd wish death on people who'd lose their signal completely if not delayed til all this stuff is worked out?
You both are remarkable examples.
I read those remarks as sarcastic, not the same as you did.
Esp since I'm sure pnh102 is aware there are *only* abour 300 million people in the US, and according to PT Barnum's theory, about only 30 million are clueless. I don't know that the planet can ever support a trillion people, at least not until there's fiber to every home.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21930137 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:30:58 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21930010 said by SSX4life:

These people deserve to die if that is the case. Old / senile / and incompetent... do we really need to hold onto analog THAT much longer for those people that don't get it?

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said by pnh102:

According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming!
Alarmist are we? :D

Actually, just proves that even with the deadline, a lot of stations weren't *really* ready like everyone thought they were. So all the nay sayers about all those *other* people who will never be ready no matter what, turns out the stations were the same way.
Probably more correct to say that most of those station that do not switch did not get the special dispensation from the FCC. I bet the vast majority were able to go digital but the FCC would not let them - thank god my area is not affected - they are all going digital today like all of them should have done.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21929977 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:55:44 EDT Re: "I want my DTV and I WANT IT NOW" http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21929794 --
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The smaller stations have little motivation and less budget to keep analog going.
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The STATIONS ARE ready. It's Joe Sixpack consumer who doesn't realize that just about all (but not 100%) broadcasters have been broadcasting a digital as well as analog signal for the past couple years.

Even at that , as a nation we are over 95% ready (between cable/satellite and digital TVs / converter boxes) - the original legislation only required 85% for a particular market to go.

And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared.

Let's just require all FOX stations to power down analog on "American Idol" night and we'll see how fast that crowd will get ready....
LOL and yet probably so true :D , the last part certainly deserves a thumbs up. ;)
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Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering.
I agree, I'm sure there is some corporate gears in the works, but looking from the outside of (is it on or not), in my area at least. A Christian station, WNAB (the WB), UPN, and Fox all switched. The big '3' though (ABC, NBC, CBS) remain analog? I mean, they do and they don't have DTV going because it's still too weak to pick up or they just haven't switched the power switch from low to high yet.

Is it any surprise that the little stations more faster than the big ones or is it just corporate slugs that are big really move that slow? :D
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These people deserve to die if that is the case. Old / senile / and incompetent... do we really need to hold onto analog THAT much longer for those people that don't get it?
I think if you bothered to actually RESEARCH the subject, you would find that the majority of unprepared parties are YOUNG / CLUELESS / MORONS (possibly like you)...
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According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming!
said by SSX4life:

These people deserve to die if that is the case. Old / senile / and incompetent... do we really need to hold onto analog THAT much longer for those people that don't get it?
Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves, but I'd bet you aren't.

Seriously, wishing death on people? For what? It matters so much to you that you get your DTV, and get it NOW, that you'd wish death on people who'd loose their signal completely if not delayed til all this stuff is worked out?

You both are remarkable examples.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/I-want-my-DTV-and-I-WANT-IT-NOW-21929724 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:04:36 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21929583 said by knightmb:

Where I live, all the major stations didn't bother with the switch over, surprising it was the little "UHF" stations that were quicker to change over than them, go figure :huh:Almost all stations except those forced to flash-cut on their existing analog channel have been broadcasting a digital signal for months...some for years...now. This is not so much a switchover than a discontinuance of redundant transmission.

Those little UHF stations probably could not afford the cost of running their 100 KW+ transmitters past today and shut them off as planned (and budgeted).

Very few stations aren't ready to go. The major network O&Os, though, decided to wait until June 12. That was a corporate decision not necessarily supported by local management or engineering.
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Even at that , as a nation we are over 95% ready (between cable/satellite and digital TVs / converter boxes) - the original legislation only required 85% for a particular market to go.

And it's NOT the over 55 crowd that's holding this up - it's 18-30 crowd who are least prepared.

Let's just require all FOX stations to power down analog on "American Idol" night and we'll see how fast that crowd will get ready....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21929532 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:25:08 EDT Re: Oh NOEZ! http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Oh-NOEZ-21929433 said by pnh102:

According to some, we could see billions, possibly trillions, of innocent, completely unsuspecting people DIE SLOW PAINFUL DEATHS because they had no clue this was coming!
Alarmist are we? :D

Actually, just proves that even with the deadline, a lot of stations weren't *really* ready like everyone thought they were. So all the nay sayers about all those *other* people who will never be ready no matter what, turns out the stations were the same way.

Where I live, all the major stations didn't bother with the switch over, surprising it was the little "UHF" stations that were quicker to change over than them, go figure :huh:

Enjoy your DTV or what few stations have switched. Last I checked with all of those *other* people, a lot of outlining areas can't pick up the *new* stations that switched last night, too bad I guess. :(
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