BillRoland
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join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
clubs: | Still misses the boat
Still not as good a deal as Boost Unlimited. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| OTOH Boost data is 2G (T-Mobile's is 2.5, 2.75 or even 3-3.5G in places) and from what I hear the network is hopelessly overloaded. Plus you can't really bring your own phone like you can with T-Mobile (GSM vs. iDEN) and all iDEN phones have horrific (3 days standby max) battery life.
Still, Boost's pricing and features (practically unlimited everything) are right on. |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
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Saint Louis, MO
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| reply to BillRoland
said by BillRoland  :Still not as good a deal as Boost Unlimited. If you want a limited Sprint network, sure. The boost network is about 1/4 the size of the TMO network, and without roaming agreements. Not to mention that you have to use iDen phones, and they only offer motorolas. And no 3g data at all anywhere. TMO's 3g network may be small right now, but it'll cover about 250 million Americans by the end of the year.
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BillRoland
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Ocala, FL
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| reply to iansltx
said by iansltx :OTOH Boost data is 2G (T-Mobile's is 2.5, 2.75 or even 3-3.5G in places) and from what I hear the network is hopelessly overloaded. Plus you can't really bring your own phone like you can with T-Mobile (GSM vs. iDEN) and all iDEN phones have horrific (3 days standby max) battery life. Still, Boost's pricing and features (practically unlimited everything) are right on. Well, being a Nextel subscriber myself I can't say I've experienced the "hopelessly overloaded" network. I've travelled between Atlanta to Orlando quite a bit and I haven't had a "System Busy" in the last 6 months. My aunt and uncle have T-Mobile and that is the worst cell service I have ever seen, they live in Atlanta and there are coverage holes everywhere. Trying to call them is a crap shoot and once they get outside the city, forget about it.
Data on iDEN is a big drawback. It could be mitigated if they would re-enable WiDEN but I doubt they will. I'll also concede that battery life is far worse.
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BillRoland
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Ocala, FL
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| reply to tiger72
said by tiger72 :said by BillRoland :Still not as good a deal as Boost Unlimited. If you want a limited Sprint network, sure. The boost network is about 1/4 the size of the TMO network, and without roaming agreements. Not to mention that you have to use iDen phones, and they only offer motorolas. And no 3g data at all anywhere. TMO's 3g network may be small right now, but it'll cover about 250 million Americans by the end of the year. Sorry, but the iDEN network is not 1/4 the size of T-Mobile native, non roaming network.
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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| reply to BillRoland
True about the fact that T-Mobile coverage isn't the greatest. iDEN is much better coverage-wise as far as spectrum/frequency go, but capacity isn't quite there in some places. Classic case of YMMV; my Sprint phone works everywhere I need it to, 99.9% of the time without having to roam. T-Mobile coverage up here ain't the greatest. Boost Mobile? I haven't checked up here for capacity or coverage, but back home both are good... |
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tiger72
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join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | reply to BillRoland
only about 1/2 the size of the native network. Of course, the roaming network is included in TMO minutes, so there's no loss of voice capability there. |
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fuziwuzi
Not born yesterday
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join:2005-07-01
Atlanta, GA
| reply to BillRoland
said by BillRoland :My aunt and uncle have T-Mobile and that is the worst cell service I have ever seen, they live in Atlanta and there are coverage holes everywhere. Trying to call them is a crap shoot and once they get outside the city, forget about it. Your aunt and uncle must have really terrible phones. I've had T-Mobile service in Atlanta for the past 3 years without any problems you suggest. Four of my friends who live in various suburbs (Lithia Springs, Dunwoody, East Point, Tucker) also use T-Mobile and have no coverage issues. I regularly have service on drives to Nashville, Athens, Birmingham... when visiting friends in Los Angeles (Long Beach) and Houston.
I suspect any problems you're encountering is more likely user-oriented and not the problem of the service.
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luckystreich
join:2005-11-05
Hartford, CT
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| reply to tiger72
doesn't boost use all of nextel's native iden coverage? Isn't it pretty similar to T-Mobile's native coverage?
Isn't it also true that T-mobile's roaming only allows for 911 calls? Most of these small GSM carriers that Tmo roamed off of were gobbled up by at&T right? |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| reply to BillRoland
said by BillRoland :
Still misses the boat
Exactly. No coverage, so who you gonna call.
tmobile should just rename its self MetroMobile as thats all it covers. Fine if your in the metro/city areas, but come out to the rest of the country and no coverage.
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DannyZ
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Erie, PA
| reply to luckystreich
said by luckystreich :Isn't it also true that T-mobile's roaming only allows for 911 calls? No. If my phone registers with a roaming partner's tower, I have always have full capabilities.
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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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| reply to luckystreich
said by luckystreich :doesn't boost use all of nextel's native iden coverage? Isn't it pretty similar to T-Mobile's native coverage? Yes it uses nextel's old iDen coverage. Yes that network is way oversold. No it's not the same size as tmo's.
Isn't it also true that T-mobile's roaming only allows for 911 calls? Most of these small GSM carriers that Tmo roamed off of were gobbled up by at&T right? Not even close. There are still many GSM carriers, and TMO customers can all still roam on ATT where TMO's network ends.
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quetwo
That VoIP Guy
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join:2004-09-04
East Lansing, MI | reply to luckystreich
TMO's roaming allows for all voice services, and depending on the carrier, most data services. I've taken trips from Michigan down to Florida and not had a single call drop, or a data drop for more than a few miles. |
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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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2 edits | reply to rec9140
said by rec9140 : said by BillRoland :
Still misses the boat
Exactly. No coverage, so who you gonna call. tmobile should just rename its self MetroMobile as thats all it covers. Fine if your in the metro/city areas, but come out to the rest of the country and no coverage. I have family sitting on 30 acres on the side of a Mesa on the western slope of Colorado. Definitely nowhere close to a Metropolitan Area (the closest city is Grand Junction, 60 miles to the northwest). And yet I get 3 bars on TMO's native network. This area isn't even on their official coverage map.
Go figure.
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And I lived in Kansas City, literally 2 miles away from Sprint's corporate headquarters in Overland Park, KS, and my girlfriend *still* couldn't get Sprint coverage at home in the middle of the metro area.
YMMV, i guess.
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IT Guy
Ow, My Balls
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Las Cruces, NM
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| reply to BillRoland
I've been with T-mobile for over a decade when they used to be VoiceStream and I have had excellent service, true the coverage isn't that great depending on where you are (expect no bars if you are camping in the middle of nowhere), but even when I'm traveling from here in Las Cruces to Albuquerque, Tuscon, pretty much any place with a major state or interstate highway I have a signal. Who wants to answer their phone when they go camping anyway? Since switching to the G1, I have noticed my call quality has improved greatly over my worthless Samsung Blast, no wonder T-mobile was giving them away, they suck!
Their customer service is top-notch too, something I rarely expect these days.
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swarto112
join:2004-02-17
Tampa, FL
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| I agree, my experience with T-mobile/Voicestream is that to never get the free or cheap phones as the reception is poor. I switched to a high end phone and all my coverage issues went away. Same with AT&T, it really does make a difference on the phone you get as to the experience you'll receive. Since I have a drawer full of old GSM phones, from time to time I'll pull them out and use them...and I reprove to myself that the phone's make all the difference. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
| reply to iansltx
said by iansltx :OTOH Boost data is 2G (T-Mobile's is 2.5, 2.75 or even 3-3.5G in places) .... More like 1G. Your not going above 19kbps. |
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djdanska
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Glen Ellyn, IL
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| reply to luckystreich
said by luckystreich :doesn't boost use all of nextel's native iden coverage? Isn't it pretty similar to T-Mobile's native coverage? Isn't it also true that T-mobile's roaming only allows for 911 calls? Most of these small GSM carriers that Tmo roamed off of were gobbled up by at&T right? I visit an area where the small carrier was bought by at&t and they kept the roaming open. I can make and receive phones calls and even surf the web on edge speeds. If i go a few miles away from that coverage into native at&t i lose service on them. They so far have kept the old carriers coverage with t-mobile. What i have noticed in the 5+ years i have had t-mobile is if i am away from the t-mobile network, i can usually roam on another provider if there is one except for at&t. Simmetry pcs, commnet, i wireless, einstein pcs.. Doesn't matter. I usually can roam.
When i first got t-mobile, i was stuck with a crappy nokia with gprs speeds and a simple wap browser. The coverage SUCKED!! Tons of dead spots around western suburbs of chicago. I would have no service around darien, westmont, downers grove, and even in western illinois. Within the past 3 years, they have added hundreds of towers where i go. I now have coverage in western illinois too. Of everywhere i go, i only have an issue in the wal mart off of 75th street in darien, IL. And i hate wal mart so i can care less about that.
My brother swears by at&t, but flat out admits he drops calls every day. I have not had a dropped call in months. And when i did, it was in western illinois where t-mobile coverage ended and roaming started. (Why can't they do seamless handoffs! They partly own i wireless!)
With 3g now, i am very happy. It totally sucks when i leave chicago and go to western illinois. 1100kbps down, 350 kbps up to 40 kbps down. They still don't have edge past dekalb! If at&t, sprint, and the smaller roaming carriers can launch edge in the same area, why can't t-mobile? That upsets me. |
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hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH | reply to tiger72
TM does not roam on ALL of ATT's network. In many areas it will connect to someone smaller before ATT. Even in Ohio where TM doesn't offer service if there is not another GSM provider you won't get shit. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO | reply to patcat88
That's 2G. High speed 2G in fact. 1G would be analog. Other 2G networks: CDMAOne (14.4 kbps) and GSM (9.6 kbps). So yeah, it's 2G. |
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