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apollo80

join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA

So, the world didn't end

and stations have to fork over over $25,000 a month that they don't have in their budget (because they were told to turn analog off) to power the analog transmitters. Let there be even more layoffs in the struggling TV industry,

Hey Obama, did you consider the fact that the power to those towers is bad for GLOBAL WARMING?

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

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what major stations are laying off?


RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11

reply to apollo80
It was Bush's NTIA that screwed the coupon program pooch, so maybe you can knock off the childish partisan sniping and concentrate on facts:

There are about six million unfilled coupon requests pending. That is why the deadline was extended.
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CCNnorthcali

join:2004-03-07
Santa Rosa, CA

reply to apollo80
Stations don't have to keep broadcasting the analog signal if they don't want to...


apollo80

join:2002-01-31
Richmond, VA

reply to hottboiinnc

said by hottboiinnc:

what major stations are laying off?
Almost everyone. Have you not been paying attention? Garnett, Raycom, hey, Young Broadcasting just filed Chapter 11!

A lot of the O and O's have had massive layoffs! (If you are unfamiliar, O and O means that the given network, NBC, CBS, ABC, FOX, "O"wn, and "O"perate the station.

travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM

reply to CCNnorthcali

said by CCNnorthcali:

Stations don't have to keep broadcasting the analog signal if they don't want to...
Actually, in many markets, they do...

»hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/a···-7A1.pdf


DaveDude
No Fear

join:1999-09-01
New Jersey
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reply to RadioDoc

said by RadioDoc:

It was Bush's NTIA that screwed the coupon program pooch, so maybe you can knock off the childish partisan sniping and concentrate on facts:

There are about six million unfilled coupon requests pending. That is why the deadline was extended.
yeah whatever. Obama should have known this was going to happen.

RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11

You too.

What a laughable comment.
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.

join:2006-07-23

reply to RadioDoc

said by RadioDoc:

It was Bush's NTIA that screwed the coupon program pooch, so maybe you can knock off the childish partisan sniping and concentrate on facts:

There are about six million unfilled coupon requests pending. That is why the deadline was extended.
Congress was there too.....

An excellent compromise (at least IMHO) would have been to stick with the original transition deadline, but increased funding for the coupons and rehonoring all the older coupons...


swerve

join:2000-10-20
La Habra, CA

reply to apollo80
It's not just about the coupons... there are always bugs to be worked out anytime a new system goes live.

I think the changeover should have been rolled out region by region (or market by market) instead of done all at once. That way any issues which crop up can be learned from and solutions applied going forward rather than trying to "put out fires" in the whole country at the same time. I mean really... the WHOLE country at one time?

This recent delay of the deadline did- after a fashion- give the FCC the ability to convert this change over to an ad-hoc on-the-fly roll out.
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openupshop

join:2000-11-25
Chandler, AZ

reply to DaveDude
Wow you must be in Bedminster, New Jersey to be talking down on Pres Obama!


michigandave

join:2007-05-16
Fenton, MI

reply to swerve
Oh. So Wilmington, NC cutting off in September 2008 for the very reason your suggest doesn't count? Does all of Hawaii cutting off on January 15 not contribute to the rest of the country for the DTV transition? Or the handful of stations nationwide cutting off analog early?

Maybe it's not as widespread as you suggest but not every single station is switching off at the same time. The Wilmington, NC was the national test market for analog cutoff.

A moderate percentage of stations cutoff on Feb 17 so I'm sure the lessons from Feb 17 will carry forward to June 12.
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RadioDoc
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Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11

reply to Fox McCloud

said by Fox McCloud:

Congress was there too.....

An excellent compromise (at least IMHO) would have been to stick with the original transition deadline, but increased funding for the coupons and rehonoring all the older coupons...
Yes they were...and back at least three years too. Which is why the insipid Obama comments are particularly vapid.

The whole program was mishandled from the start. Nobody wanted to be in charge and therefore no agency wanted to take responsibility. The NTIA got it by default and then managed to make things even worse.

I agree about your compromise, except that the funding extension got lost in the months leading up to the election and all the riveting economic follies. There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the aisle, but none for an administration who inherited the mess.
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fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:1

reply to apollo80
Yep. Our parent company suffered billions in losses last quarter. 2009 is going to be a bloodbath I think.



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:1

reply to RadioDoc
How could they not see this coming? The coupon program was supposed to be limited anyway, and people knew this.

These coupons were supposed to help the neediest of people afford an already inexpensive converter box, not give ebay sellers an opportunity for profit.



fifty nine

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
kudos:1

reply to travelguy
And even without the FCC restriction, if some stations don't shut down and move from their current channels, other channels won't be able to move to their final channel assignments.


RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11

reply to fifty nine
See what coming? That they never fully funded the original number of coupons? Yeah they should definitely seen that coming...they hurled it at themselves when this program was announced long before Obama even announced his candidacy.

Obama will have the opportunity to make his own messes. Trying to blame this on him is rather stupid.
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Mactron
el Camino Real
Premium
join:2001-12-16
CM94sv

reply to apollo80
It didn't here. All HP analog TV stations are lights out here ! Save one in the FCC's mandated "night lite" mode. I don't think all the DTV transition info the "night lite" station is now showing will wakeup the, someone Government will take care of me folks. No cry of injustice in the local papers, nightly news or local Blogs. All is well with the ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED Jan. 17th , 2009 Analog HP TV shutdown here.
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If only the Verizon CSRs worked this well.


RadioDoc
58ef2c0
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join:2000-05-11

reply to travelguy
Actually, in some markets some stations are required to keep analog on.
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travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM

said by RadioDoc:

Actually, in some markets some stations are required to keep analog on.
From the FCC: Acting FCC Chairman Michael J. Copps said. “In fact, we tried to ensure that in every market in America, at least one station continues to broadcast an analog signal."

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