matrix3D
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Deep River, CT | What about private wifi?
So does somebody who is running a private, secure wifi network inside their home considered a "residential hotspot owner?" I think this absolute B.S. if that's the case. |
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3 edits | said by matrix3D  :So does somebody who is running a private, secure wifi network inside their home considered a "residential hotspot owner?" I think this absolute B.S. if that's the case. That isn't the intent of the bill - to have private residences keep logs. That is a gross distortion(and interpretation) of the proposed law trotted out by those opposed to it to try and drum up support to defeat it by scaring the avg citizen.
And besides, the 2 bills introduced by Republicans(1 in Senate & 1 in the House) have NO co-sponsors, are buried in Committees controlled by Democrats, and have virtually no chance of coming out of Committee unless re-written by Democrats.
This is just the privacy lobbyists crying wolf to rev up their supporters for battles yet to come.
Rep Lamar Smith has his say:
»www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent···a16.html
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Eat Me
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Sussex, NJ | The letter of the law needs to be fixed then. As it is now, private citizens will have to keep logs on their routers. |
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tad2020
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So every Mom & Pop Coffee Shop out there that provides free wi-fi is going to have to re-invest in new equipment that costs likely 100 times their current setup? |
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said by Eat Me :The letter of the law needs to be fixed then. As it is now, private citizens will have to keep logs on their routers. It isn't a law yet or probably ever. It isn't even out of committee, where it is likely to die. And it doesn't have any co-sponsors either. And plenty of time to clear up any vague terms if it has a chance of going anywhere.
»thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z···s.00436:
»thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z···r.01076:
Law being amended to retain data for 2 yrs:
»www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/u···00-.html
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said by tad2020 :So every Mom & Pop Coffee Shop out there that provides free wi-fi is going to have to re-invest in new equipment that costs likely 100 times their current setup? No, mom and pop shops will stop free WiFi. Chains like Starbucks will comply.
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vpoko
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battleop
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Hey that would be an economic boost for the IT sector.  |
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| said by battleop :Hey that would be an economic boost for the IT sector. I'm buying HD manufacturer stock. |
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rdmiller
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Richmond, VA | reply to TKJunkMail
For once I agree completely with TK. Sometimes these bills get introduced just to generate fund raising among constituency groups. |
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trebzon
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Bad concepts lead to bad law.
I am all for taking out child porn but we must start remember why we used to claim to be a free country. We should have a right to not have our activities tracked everywhere. In the library or other public institution. Away from these locations not fine.
Also adding an unfair burden to small business is stupid and asinine. Passing a law you claim Starbucks can follow and small shops not is what is wrong with the system today and is trend we need to stop or we are all doomed to much sorrier world. |
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Pv8man
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Yep, TK Junk Mail hit the nail right on the head this time.
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this is just a way or including some sort of fine or added power/money to the authorities. |
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mom and pop places could just turn on logging in their linksys router. the law wants logs but it doesnt state how accurate.
as for private WiFi if a porn viewer managed to break your security then the law still couldnt expect you to have logs as you could state it wasnt ment for public usage.
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Cleveland, OH | linksys logs only go back so long and then they rewirte. they way the document is stated for TWO years. NOT 3hours. |
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said by trebzon :Bad concepts lead to bad law. I am all for taking out child porn Gee this child porn must be everywhere since they have to have such laws. Funny I have been on the web for nearly 10 year and I've never encountered this child porn. Yes I'm sure it exists. I suspect in much smaller quantities than the fearmongers make it out to be. I'm prety sure the cops know the places on the web that pervs hang out. And if it takes them 2 years to bust some guy I say fire those cops and hire ones that aren't lazy and/or stupid. |
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This is simple nonsense. What else is there to say ?..  |
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It's a stupid idea--- let's hope it stays buried. |
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said by TKJunkMail :said by tad2020 :So every Mom & Pop Coffee Shop out there that provides free wi-fi is going to have to re-invest in new equipment that costs likely 100 times their current setup? No, mom and pop shops will stop free WiFi. Chains like Starbucks will comply. What's good about that?
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hacker90
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Winnebago, IL | reply to BF69
Head on over to the Piratebay, they have loads of torrents on the borderline shit and such. |
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1 edit | shhh, the adults are having a discussion. quit talking out of your ass and trying to scare people from TPB. better question...how would you know that stuff exists there in the first place? unless you were looking for it, youd never know it existed. |
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