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| Privacy Commissioner Files Warning about DPI to CRTC
English: »www.crtc.gc.ca/public/partvii/20···7577.pdf
French: »www.crtc.gc.ca/public/partvii/20···7589.pdf
(Mandatory PDF warning)
It is an easy read. I think she (The Privacy Commissioner) geared it to make it an easy read for everyone to understand whats involved and whats happening already with DPI next door to us and in the EU.
P2Pnet also carries a small bit of the points here: »www.p2pnet.net/story/18587
The part that took me was this:
The CRTC has jurisdiction over privacy issues arising from the operations of telecommunication networks. The CRTC’s mandate under the telecommunications act specifically includes contributing to the protection of the privacy of persons as a matter of Canadian Telecommunications Policy.
I do believe CAIP and others already stated to the CRTC that the Telecommunications Act affords them this responsibility, and the CRTC said its the privacy commissioner (going by memory).
Now the Privacy Commissioner more or less throws it back at the CRTC and says its your responsibility and mandate to protect the Canadian people.
Interesting...
She raises lots of points that the CRTC has to consider.
For sure Bell's next move will be the monitization of your private data. Its already happening across the border and in the EU.
oh, and its your last day to file a comment with the CRTC  |
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R0CKY
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Chatham, ON | Interesting no doubt! |
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indeed
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Notice how the Privacy Commissioner of Canada makes no reference to any ISP, but notes the way a certain Telecom company (ahem Bell) put in DPI without regard, notice and consent to others (ahem.. thats Bell).
Just BAM put it in. Your packets belong to Bell. |
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zacron
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| said by indeed :
Notice how the Privacy Commissioner of Canada makes no reference to any ISP, but notes the way a certain Telecom company (ahem Bell) put in DPI without regard, notice and consent to others (ahem.. thats Bell).
Just BAM put it in. Your packets belong to Bell.
You beat me to it!
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OK EVERYONE REPEAT AFTER ME
Goosefrabah.
Ahhh, feel better now?
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mlerner
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Nepean, ON | reply to oh LOOK
I'm curious of what the CRTC will make of this or if they'll throw it back to the Privacy Commissioner. |
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shepd
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| said by mlerner  :I'm curious of what the CRTC will make of this or if they'll throw it back to the Privacy Commissioner. We appreciate your comments, however, Bell's authority to "Manage the Network" is now a right enshrined in the BNA and as such we cannot process your request. 
Furthermore, Bell has decided that since Canada Post uses the internet to intercommunicate, and therefore must "Manage the Network" a charge of $0.05 and a CanCon fee of $0.10 have been billed to your office. Thank you in advance for your payment. If you choose to pay by mail, please add the $0.05 Canada Post fee, and an environmental improvement fee of $0.01.
Have a nice day.
The CRTC, aka God. |
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shepd
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Oh, and why the hell is it that the Privacy Commissioner is the last person in the government that "gets" it?
You know, "gets it", as in that surveillance is wrong, that the police can't be permitted to watch people's lives 24x7 (As per the Comissioner's decision that 24x7 police CCTV monitoring is illegal), and now that?
Who here says we need to elect the Privacy Commissioner to be our next Prime Minister? *ME*! |
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18526190
join:2009-01-07 | Hmmmm yet Police Depts all over the country monitor CCTV 24/7.
Hell the TTC has it to the point they can track you from station to subway to streetcar to bus and then the cops can pick you up from that point all the way home. |
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shepd
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| said by 18526190 :Hmmmm yet Police Depts all over the country monitor CCTV 24/7. Hell the TTC has it to the point they can track you from station to subway to streetcar to bus and then the cops can pick you up from that point all the way home. This should be following these recommendations:
»www.privcom.gc.ca/information/gu···01_e.asp
I wish I could remember where the department was (Then I could find the Commissioner's letter to them!) but they decided to go with 23.917x7 monitoring to comply with the recommendation, in law but not spirit.
And yes, the TTC monitoring is pretty scary. I bet their excuse is they aren't the police. |
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18526190
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hehhee 23.9x7 monitoring, thats funny. |
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pnjunction
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said by 18526190 :Hmmmm yet Police Depts all over the country monitor CCTV 24/7. Hell the TTC has it to the point they can track you from station to subway to streetcar to bus and then the cops can pick you up from that point all the way home. Those are very different situations in which you are out in public. None of that information couldn't be obtained by people standing around observing you, they're just doing it more efficiently with technology. That is very different from private communication sent to and from your home, or for that matter to and from a mobile device.
Also, I question whether the TTC can track movement that well. Do you mean by looking at video footage? Is that even transmitted from the buses and streetcars in real time? They don't have any other tracking mechanisms I can think of. |
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hope so
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said by mlerner :I'm curious of what the CRTC will make of this or if they'll throw it back to the Privacy Commissioner. I was thinking the same.
There are already a few filings with the Privacy Commissioner (per the PDF) in regards to DPI that have yet to be resolved. I know CIPPIC filed with the Privacy Commissioner.
If the CRTC tosses it back at her and/or if some legistlatvie body says it the Privacy Commissioners responsibility, I think it would be better for all.
She appears to be the only one with her eye's open.
So in a way I hope this does happen, for all our protection. |
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nanook
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said by indeed :
Notice how the Privacy Commissioner of Canada makes no reference to any ISP, but notes the way a certain Telecom company (ahem Bell) put in DPI without regard, notice and consent to others (ahem.. thats Bell)...
As much as I dislike BellER, remember that Robbers started throttling years before they did. They denied it for a long time too, so we do not know when they started or what techniques they used. Consequently we cannot rule out their use of DPI well before BellER got the idea.
Also Robbers pioneered the injection of their own content into other peoples' web pages into customers' web content. They cannot do that (technically, that is) without using some sort of DPI. |
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| I was going to say that too nanook about Rogers.
Police and TTC videocam monitoring is probably done by general monitoring of the public at large, and only monitoring individuals by review, or by having been observed likely performing some crime from the general view. |
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very true
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True. Rogers is just as guilty of this, if not more so. |
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eots
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said by shepd :And yes, the TTC monitoring is pretty scary. I bet their excuse is they aren't the police. There's nothing scary about the TTC monitoring. It's essential because of all the shootings on buses and subways. Public safety takes priority over privacy. |
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mhartman
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Kingston, ON | reply to oh LOOK
Wow, excellent submission by the privacy officer. Normally I moan and groan because I deal with PIPEDA at work (healthcare), but this is awesome. |
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Deadpool
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said by eots :said by shepd :And yes, the TTC monitoring is pretty scary. I bet their excuse is they aren't the police. There's nothing scary about the TTC monitoring. It's essential because of all the shootings on buses and subways. Public safety takes priority over privacy. So if DPI is used to catch terrorists or child molesters, it's okay by you?
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mazhurg
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said by eots : Public safety takes priority over privacy. There is a scary quote if I ever saw one.
I refuse to believe that I have spent the last 30 years ensuring freedom to this country so that people forget the past.
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bit here
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»www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/3696/125/
Not much more to it though |
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