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"heh yeah right"

This phone was made Gsm only, not Cdma.Verizon keep dreaming on AT&T will keep renewing the contract to keep on making Apple happy to keep the phone away from Verizon Wireless nice try Karl!

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Shockingly, many smartphones are made on GSM and then brought to CDMA- typically the design is such that the main work the manufacturer has to do is to swap out a different radio and change the firmware. However, while most phone manufacturers can do this easily enough, apparently it becomes impossible in relation to Apple?

Really the main reason this happens or not is money- presumably Verizon would have to pay Apple enough to make up for whatever enforcement clauses there are in the at&t-Apple exclusivity contract, as well as to make it worth Apple's while in creating a slightly different model. Now, they just spent quite a bit of money buying Alltel? But Verizon Wireless is very profitable. (It was the most profitable wireless network even before it became the largest)



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said by anonuser101 :

This phone was made Gsm only, not Cdma.Verizon keep dreaming on AT&T will keep renewing the contract to keep on making Apple happy to keep the phone away from Verizon Wireless nice try Karl!
AT&T can keep the iphone. Whats the big deal?


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There's no amount of money AT&T could pay Apple that would offset their profits going CDMA and opening a massive new market. Apple seems to have made the calculated choice that a certain percentage of early adopters would switch networks to get an iPhone so they were able to get a slick deal from AT&T and roll it out slowly. They're probably close (or exceeded) the number of users willing to break out of contracts and switch carriers.



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I remember reading somewhere that the iphone went gsm because it was slower, and therefore would help the life of the non-user replacable battery. bring it to sprint and I might consider it, but keep you crappy slow att network.


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Hm, on GSM when the original iPhone was released, in America the 3G network wasn't very well deployed, and battery life was a bigger issue on WCDMA. If the iPhone had been on CDMA at that time, they probably would have EV-DO, since it doesn't really hurt battery life more than standalone 1xRTT does.

This is in part for technical reasons- CDMA2000 1xRTT/and EV-DO use CDMA, which uses more battery power than the TDMA used as part of 2G GSM, while 3G GSM also uses CDMA, over a wider frequency band than CDMA2000. (As you can tell, the acronyms are very confusing here)

Battery life is also the justification RIMM uses for keeping the GSM BlackBerry Curve 8900 2G-only, they've claimed that they place battery life as their second priority below device security.



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said by jsz0:

There's no amount of money AT&T could pay Apple that would offset their profits going CDMA and opening a massive new market. Apple seems to have made the calculated choice that a certain percentage of early adopters would switch networks to get an iPhone so they were able to get a slick deal from AT&T and roll it out slowly. They're probably close (or exceeded) the number of users willing to break out of contracts and switch carriers.
Who's going to want a CDMA iPhone when LTE is supposed to be getting rolled out from VZW at the end of next year?

I'd be more inclined to believe that Apple is going to make an LTE iPhone which all carriers could use, than a CDMA iphone for VZW only.
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said by gsmsux :

I remember reading somewhere that the iphone went gsm because it was slower, and therefore would help the life of the non-user replacable battery. bring it to sprint and I might consider it, but keep you crappy slow att network.
...or they made a GSM phone first because 95% of the planet uses GSM, so they would be able to pull in most of the market from day 1.
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