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AMD Phreak
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Re: Next level - licenced backhauls

MMMMM.... MPR microwaves.

Those are SWEEEET!

It basically is a WAN router with microwave interfaces, and any combo of WAN interface you think you want to throw at it.

You want to transport it, go for it. You want to route the backbone in any combination? It will do it.

The MPR's will soon have even more integration with the Alcatel routers as the MPR and I think it was, the 6800 or something chassis are common platform.

*drool*

And the LSY's are uber too. I have no experience with them but from speaking with my friends at AL/LU they are kickbutt units. They are dream radios for long haul systems. Think of them as an evolution from the old AT&T Long Lines days. Everything Collins Microwave had come up with over the years is what you see there.

Of course let's not forget the MDR8000's while we are speaking of Collins. MDR's if you can afford them are a perfect unit for entry-level users who may need to transport any type of TDM or Ethernet traffic. They are costly to deploy in terms of transmission lines (T-LINE, flanges, couplers, flex-sections, etc) but they can be aggregated to deliver 300Mbps of FDX througput at significant distances (6GHz) or short haul distances.

If your budget is very tight, I'd focus on products from Dragonwave. If you have more of a budget and require interfaces that the rest of the telco world uses, look at Alcatel or NERA. Both Alcatel and NERA are big players in the backhaul arena. I guess if you want to take a few steps backwards you could use Harris....

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EMC_guy

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said by AMD Phreak:

If you have more of a budget and require interfaces that the rest of the telco world uses, look at Alcatel or NERA.
This is an in-accurate representation of the global market where deployed base of Harris and Ceragon licensed radios dwarf all other brands!

Remember that Dragonwave, Nera, Trango, etc are relative newcomers, while old-hands like Alcatel will be moving away from peripheral products (which include microwave) to concentrate on core business similar to what Lucent and Nortel had already done but a bit too late for their well being.


AMD Phreak
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said by EMC_guy:

said by AMD Phreak:

If you have more of a budget and require interfaces that the rest of the telco world uses, look at Alcatel or NERA.
This is an in-accurate representation of the global market where deployed base of Harris and Ceragon licensed radios dwarf all other brands!

Remember that Dragonwave, Nera, Trango, etc are relative newcomers, while old-hands like Alcatel will be moving away from peripheral products (which include microwave) to concentrate on core business similar to what Lucent and Nortel had already done but a bit too late for their well being.
I'm simply stating that both Alcatel and NERA offer interfaces that are not native 802.3.
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said by AMD Phreak:

I'm simply stating that both Alcatel and NERA offer interfaces that are not native 802.3.
Dozens of brands offer TDM interfaces!!! You wrote exactly "Alcatel and NERA are big players in the backhaul arena. I guess if you want to take a few steps backwards you could use Harris...." which is quite different than any telco microwave professionals would write!

Anticipating further skepticism, I provide link to a recent $2.8M contract to replace Alcatel with Harris - an action becoming too common world-wide! »www.cap-az.com/images/meetings/3···ment.pdf

"The microwave system consists of almost entirely all Alcatel products, specifically MDR 5000, 26000 and 8000 series. The 5000 and 6000 series have been at end of life for some time, and new spare parts are not available. There have been reliability problems on all three series throughout the system’s life. Parts, repairs and associated travel time and helicopter flights are becoming increasingly expensive.

In 2005, CAWCD purchased a pair of Harris radios for evaluation. These radios have performed error-free since that time. CAWCD also used Harris radios prior to the acquisition of the Alcatel system in 1996. The latest offering from Alcatel is still the MDR 8000.

Staff recommends replacing the Alcatel radios with Harris radios ... "


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We'll take this conversation offline ok? It's messing the thread up.


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