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jadebangle
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DSL is still inferior to 100 or 1000mbps Lan

Fios greatly shortening this distance to 1000FT or LESS
It would be a waste of investment to use it for ADSL or Cable as these are inferior and have poor upload performance.

Too bad that only 10-15 percent of subscriber are able to get 15-20mbps with a measly 896kbps on upload
Copper based technology has its limitation... distance, bandwidth issues, noise issues, isn't easier then fiber optic to deploy. the longer the line the weaker the signal, fiber has none of these limitation thats why it has potential to grow to any capacity the only limitation is the hardware

speed of 100mbps are just a fraction of what fiber can do
speed of 1gpbs or 1000mbps will be the next upgrade for fiber

ADSL and Cable will be left in the dust
It won't be able to catch up

When fiber goes 1gpbs, cable will be bragging about 50mbps as their top tier, ADSL 20mbps still the same crappy upload.

Qwest like the rest of the bozo att,roadrunner,charter,cox etc that only increase you download dramatically while keeping the upload as low as possible is not going to cut it for broadband user. It is a crippled connection for leeching only and have no other uses.

ATT u-verse is a joke because all they did was use fiber partially to shorten the distance and make it possible for user to receive higher DSL speed such as 6mbps/1 and 10/1.5
What a waste of fiber technology

Austinloop

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said by jadebangle:

the longer the line the weaker the signal, fiber has none of these limitation thats why it has potential to grow to any capacity the only limitation is the hardware

Having been in the fiber business (network transmission) for around 20 + years, let me inform you that there is loss in fiber cable and it needs regeneration, just as copper lines do, just the distances are further.


jadebangle
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The loss is minimal like 3 percent
for copper its 97 percent so I am correct
you are basing your opinion on disinformation heard from another misinformed user who is never used optic fiber or done any research on it
your opinion are bias and you need to do some more reading on fiber optic before coming to this conclusion.


viperlmw
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said by Austinloop:

said by jadebangle:

the longer the line the weaker the signal, fiber has none of these limitation thats why it has potential to grow to any capacity the only limitation is the hardware

Having been in the fiber business (network transmission) for around 20 + years, let me inform you that there is loss in fiber cable and it needs regeneration, just as copper lines do, just the distances are further.
said by jadebangle:

The loss is minimal like 3 percent
for copper its 97 percent so I am correct
you are basing your opinion on disinformation heard from another misinformed user who is never used optic fiber or done any research on it
your opinion are bias and you need to do some more reading on fiber optic before coming to this conclusion.
Uhh, Jade, better do some research as it appears you don't actually work with the physical layer. Austin appears to have at least some knowledge, and I will certainly not dispute his 20 years. Hell, I only have 10, and I know he's correct.


jadebangle
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here is some reading for you misinformed user
10 or 20 years whatever fiber only been around for the last 5 years so those claim are bs or bogus!
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_fiber

If you're just trying to win an argument, its very amusing



jmn1207
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Here is some interesting information about signal loss and fiber.

»store.a2zcable.com/fiopcadi.html


hottboiinnc
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reply to jadebangle
fiber has been around a lot longer than 5years. HA!

How do you think the Internet was built off FIBER! AOL even built their own Fiber backbone back in the day! TWC has been offering RR for more than 5 years! Excite@home was around long before 5 years ago

you need to do your own research and stop relying on Wiki



jadebangle
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Thats very funny for someone who is not on fiber broadband

FTTN fiber to the neighborhood?

I don't consider dsl,cable copper based fiber just cause the backbone aka central office are partially fiber optic.
Are you calling analog dialup fiber broadband too because you see the isp uses fiber wire to handle all the traffic?
again most of you are still clueless how fiber give amazing bandwidth when connected directly to your home
when i said 5 years i meant for average consumer. i never even heard about it before verizon fios came into existent that was in 2003... which mean the majority of us about 99.9 percent. before that it was still in developement so give me a break. dsl,cable is an 80's technology, fiber is 90's but did not come into use for broadband until much later


hottboiinnc
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your nuts! flat out nuts!

And you're very funny by saying that just because the last mile is not FTTH the entire thing is not fiber.

You said above that FIBER has only been around for 5 years. I said NO! It's been around longer and now your claiming the last mile because someone proved your wrong.

But then again youre the one that claims that SureWest cable DID NOT buy your cable company but instead is another overbuilder to your area.

You need some help.

And Surewest has had FTTH BEFORE VZ. Just because its not a national company does not mean it wasn't done. Qwest was one of the FIRST Phone companies to do VDSL and offer CableTV. But because it wasn't national or nationwide it wasn't "important huh". You need to get over VZ and stop dreaming you'll have them some day.

And again FIBER WAS AROUND BEFORE CABLE TV service!


Austinloop

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reply to jadebangle
Okay, jade, I coordinated the installation of fiber to a hut for DLC, at a DS-3 rate on multimode fiber in the late 80's, I assume that that is at least 20 years ago. I have supervised the installation and maintenance of fiber optic multiplexers up to and including OC-192. And they do have loss budgets that have to be taken into account. Let me ask how much fiber you have put in the ground and spliced?



dvd536
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reply to jadebangle

said by jadebangle:

Too bad that only 10-15 percent of subscriber are able to get 15-20mbps with a measly 896kbps on upload
Don't forget they also give up 15% of that 896kbps upload in tired old PPPoE/A overhead!
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hottboiinnc
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but DSL is suppose to be such a great product! talk about someone not giving truth in advertising.


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