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Re: Not so fast said by fAcEtIOUs:said by nycdave:It does not cost Verizon $4000 per home for FiOS..... So, what does it cost? And please back it up with links that prove what you claim. »blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=571
edit to add answer: $700 per home currently, they hope to reduce it to $650 in 2010. |
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 | said by MrSpock29:said by fAcEtIOUs:said by nycdave:It does not cost Verizon $4000 per home for FiOS..... So, what does it cost? And please back it up with links that prove what you claim. » blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=571edit to add answer: $700 per home currently, they hope to reduce it to $650 in 2010. That certainly CLAIMS lowered costs. But no proof is supplied. All this is is the CLAIM of a blogger - hardly proof. He doesn't even reference company sources for his numbers. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page |
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 | said by fAcEtIOUs:That certainly CLAIMS lowered costs. But no proof is supplied. All this is is the CLAIM of a blogger - hardly proof. He doesn't even reference company sources for his numbers. As Dave says, read the quarterly and annual reports. I don't have time now, but it has been much discussed on here about how much installation costs have declined. $4000 is way off the mark. |
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 2 edits | said by MrSpock29:said by fAcEtIOUs:That certainly CLAIMS lowered costs. But no proof is supplied. All this is is the CLAIM of a blogger - hardly proof. He doesn't even reference company sources for his numbers. As Dave says, read the quarterly and annual reports. I don't have time now, but it has been much discussed on here about how much installation costs have declined. $4000 is way off the mark. Here is a link to the quarterly report. Other than Verizon's claim of lowered costs to install, there are no hard numbers listed. »yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/dis···ype=html
As the deployment of the FiOS network gains scale and installation and automation improvements occur, costs per home connected are expected to decline. That is the extent of FIOS install costs mentioned in the report.
The annual report repeats the same info verbatim: »yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/dis···ype=html -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page |
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 tim_kButtons, Bows, Beamer, Shadow, KaseyPremium,VIP join:2002-02-02 Stewartstown, PA kudos:13 | Boy, you don't give up do you? From the intranet by Peter W. Thonis Senior Vice President of External Communications, talking about a blog that was bearish about FIOS.
"Based on our four years of experience deploying and selling FiOS, I thought I'd offer our own observation about the bear's view:
It's near-sighted.
Verizon's investment in FiOS was a strategic decision looked at from several perspectives. The Times' bear seems focused only on the short-term economics of the investment. Fair enough. But even at that, some of his underlying assumptions are wrong.
The facts are that our return on FiOS will exceed our cost of capital. When looking at the economics of the investment, we see significant financial benefits from maintenance expense savings, and we track three metrics we consider critical:
1. Capital costs
We said our target per home passed was $700 by 2010, and we are ahead of plan to achieve that objective. In fact, weve already beaten the target.
We said our target per home connected was $650 by 2010, and were on plan to hit that target.
2. Penetration
-- We said Internet penetration would be 35-40 percent by 2010 and we are on track to achieve that objective with a current penetration of 24 percent.
-- We said TV penetration would be 20-25 percent by 2010 and we already are at 20 percent so are now saying we will exceed 25 percent.
3. ARPU (average revenue per customer per month)
-- Our average revenue per subscriber is more than $130/mos and better than plan. For those with the triple play (a bundle that includes FiOS voice, Internet and TV) it is even higher.
Still, any analysis of today's economics gives only a partial view of the real value of FiOS to Verizon, our customers and our investors.
When we looked at FiOS, we looked not only at what was financially prudent today, but also where communications and entertainment technology was headed tomorrow -- and 10 years from now. We looked at how customer demands would change and grow. We even considered how regulators and policymakers might come to value the great potential of broadband to provide an economic stimulus to the U.S. economy, and perhaps even some solutions to our health care and environmental concerns.
In the near future, we see the benefits of having a converged set of products and services. We see new services that will drive additional revenues. For example, in our view, FiOS Internet is a natural replacement for outdated cable-modem technology, with fiber capacities better suited to handling streaming media and the burgeoning, bandwidth-intense applications being developed for everything from social networking, to gaming and entertainment, to work-at-home, education and health care. We also see wireless as a more feature-rich replacement to cable-based telephone services.
Our fiber network will create new uses. We didn't build it to provide plain old cable TV service. Instead, it's our view that customers will increasingly demand the types of wireless and fiber broadband services that are just now beginning to emerge." -- RIP my babys Buttons 1/15/94-2/9/07 & Beamer 7/24/08, Buttons, Buttons video, Beamer
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 1 edit | Thanks for info. The link for that posting you made is here: »policyblog.verizon.com/PolicyBlo···iOS.aspx
And the rebuttal to those Verizon claims on cost per home. »bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/1···pay-off/ |
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 | For me, Moffett and the NYT are not credible. I don't put a whole lot into either of them. Moffett has always been bearish on FTTH, and the NYT, is, well, the NYT. |
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 elbm join:2000-08-03 Reisterstown, MD | reply to fAcEtIOUs According to the report you linked to-- Verizon has fios built and available to 11.9 million homes. Verizon has spent 23 billion-- which includes construction to all 11.9 million homes and installation to all homes subscribing to fios. There is no break down in the report as to construction and installation monies or how many of there broadband customers are fios vs dsl.
The rough math is 23b/11.9= 1932.77 which is a sum that mixes passed and installed homes. My understanding roughly breaks down into 1500 per home passed in construction expense and roughly 1000 per subscriber to get them "hooked up". |
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