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Cheese
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reply to kamm

Re: Gee there is a shock...

said by kamm:

said by Karl Bode:

Apparently not id?
Well, what's surprising?

id was ALWAYS a bunch of arrogant @sses in the South, no matter how nicely they tried to sell themselves - id and Carmack are one of the biggest hacks of the gaming business, I think. He might be a good coder but his games SUCKED, big time - I never seen anything more overhyped and then disappoiting, outdated game than Doom 3 at its release... unbalanced game engine (ooohhhh, lighs and shadows - boohoo), nonexistent, 90s-style scripted AI, stupid little dungeon-like maps due to its enormously tasking crappy (low-poly w/ high-rez textures and only nice lights) engine...

...who likes pontyheads, right?

Doom 3 tanked in reviews but unfortunately their disgusting marketing still sold a lot of this crap - however people took notice how shitty their game was and the biggest problem was that devs took notice too: they saw the engine sucked and went for another one.

The problem is that their games were rather tech demos for their engines - they don't fuckin' know how to make games anymore, it's quite obvious but now their engines suck too.
Literally EVERY new game uses Unreal Engine v3, id was COMPLETELY OWNED by Epic, BIG TIME.


Sour grapes: Carmack startedtalking about "mobile games" which was meant to be a stupid, lame attempt to sell his wife's completely useless company (it's a money pit so far with no return in sight whatsoever, just like Carmack's failed space rocket business.)

Now this Flash-based rehashing of the old Quake 3 is something that's interesting - but it's still just a Q3, no matter how cool the execution is...
Not every NEW game is using the Unreal Engine

Oh, and his games suck? Quake was only one of the BEST games of all time


jackknife

join:2001-02-24
Phoenix, AZ

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Oh, and his games suck? Quake was only one of the BEST games of all time
I don't think so. Doom was much better. Once ID tried to get into accelerated 3D, their games have not been up to par.


Karl Bode
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I thought Quake 1 and 2 were very innovative. I thought Quake 3 was completely dull, completely trumped in every way by Unreal Tournament.



Cheese
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reply to jackknife
Also, if it were not for Quake, we would not have had TF, and from that, we now have the awesome TF2



FBGuy
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unfortunately i agree completely. part of me wishes that quake 3 was not related to Quake at all. i have so many fond memories playing quakeworld on my 33.6kbps aol account when i was a kid. god those were the days.


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