 nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
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| Adipose RXI bumped into this page on the web. I "bumped" into it as a result of a google lookup. For the credit card bill I received today had a charge very similar to those reported in the linked page.
I call the credit card issuer. They told me to call Adipose RX at their 800 number. I made it clear to the card issuer that this was a clear fraud, that they should immediately cancel the card and issue a replacement.
The were not thrilled with my demand, but they agreed to cancel the card anyway. And just at the end of the call, they asked if I had made a charge on Feb 19th. I hadn't. It turns out that there was another bogus charge there.
For the record, here is WHOIS data for Adipose RX:
Domain Name: ADIPOSERX.COM
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.KONNECTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS3.KONNECTIONS.COM
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientRenewProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 05-jan-2009
Creation Date: 24-nov-2008
Expiration Date: 24-nov-2010
As you can see, their web site was created relatively recently.
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MGDPremium,MVM
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kudos:9 | Can you post the line item details of the charge? Was there a phone number listed?
Soemthing big is going in there.
MGD |
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| said by MGD:Something big is going in (on) there. Absolutely!
For the venerable nwrickert  to become intended victim to a CC fraud operation, it is big, no sarcasm whatsoever for those not familiar with nwrickert 's credentials. |
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MGDPremium,MVM
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kudos:9 | There are 11 pages of fraud reports just under one phone number from January 28th thru today: »800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-800-430-1529 and a lot more:»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Ad···G=Search
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There was an unauthorized charge of $34.84 placed on 2/3/09 on my MasterCard from Adipose RX. I called the 800 number (800-430-1529) listed on their website, www.loseweightsystems.com, and spoke to Walt who, after I told him my name and state assured me that the charge would be reversed. Since I just called today I can't confirm the charge has been reversed.
NOTE: The address provide (and verified in WhoIs) is 223 W. Bulldog, Ste. 304, Provo, UT 84604. This is a UPS Store and the firm is probably renting mailbox 304. The UPS store number is 5266. You can send them an email at store5266 at theupsstore.com and ask that they take steps to prevent the passibly fraudulent activity taking place from their premises
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Follow up:
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Refund Received
After a second phone call to the 800 number in my original posting my credit card was credited for the full amount of the purchase.
Also, the manager of the UPS store did some investigation and concluded that some other firm was submitting these fraudulent charges to test stolen credit card information and that it was not the renter of box 304 that was deceiving customers. I'm not convinced, but I suppose it could be.
»www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/4···m#397065
For lots of reasons I am not buying that explanation.
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Lose Weight Systems - Adipose Rx. Caralluma Extreme
Phone: 877-7635283
Fax:
1155 West Pioneer Blvd, Suite 103-211
Mesquite, Nevada, 89027
U.S.A.
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Lose Weight Systems, Adipose RX
Phone: 877-297-2311
Fax:
223 West Bulldog, Ste. 304
Provo, Utah, 84604
U.S.A.
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Also one victim reports that they received a refund notice to a correct email address that they never gave during the phone call. That means they also had their correct email associated with the card and individual in their system. Possible transferring of prior purchase records from a another entity.
If I recall correctly this is not the first issue of this genre that has ties to Utah and Nevada.
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Whip
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Sorry. Very delayed posting. Didn't realize it would double. |
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Whip
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said by MGD:Can you post the line item details of the charge? Was there a phone number listed? Soemthing big is going in there. MGD 800-763-5283
800-430-1529
»800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-800-430-1529/8
877-297-2311
»800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-297-2311/3 |
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MGDPremium,MVM
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kudos:9 | LOL Whip, We were checking out the same neighborhood at the same time !!
There is no way this is card testing, by any stretch, at least not by a third party. Follow the money. No one is reporting secondary fraud, except from other divisions of the same entity.
MGD |
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nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
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| reply to MGD
Can you post the line item details of the charge? Was there a phone number listed?
02/01 02/01 ADIPOSE RX 8004301529 KNA 34.84
02/19 FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE*FINANCE CHARGE 1.04
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nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
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said by Snowy:For the venerable nwrickert to become intended victim to a CC fraud operation, it is big, no sarcasm whatsoever for those not familiar with nwrickert 's credentials. To be fair, anybody is subject to this kind of problem.
The only way to be sure that your credit card is not compromised, is to never use it. And even then you cannot be completely sure.
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MGDPremium,MVM
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said by nwrickert:
02/01 02/01 ADIPOSE RX 8004301529 KNA 34.84
02/19 FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE*FINANCE CHARGE 1.04
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Interesting !! indicates that despite the US address and 800-430-1529 number the merchant account / acquirer bank is "offshore".
said by nwrickert:... The only way to be sure that your credit card is not compromised, is to never use it have one issued. Fixed it !! :)
MGD |
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Whip
join:2009-01-23
Califon, NJ | reply to MGD
said by MGD:LOL Whip, We were checking out the same neighborhood at the same time !! I saw you......in your black suit, dark sunglasses, and newspaper trying to be all non-chalent standing on the corner. |
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nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
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Another data point on this.
Today, in the mail, a bottle of pills arrived. According to the label, they were sent by
Lose Weight Systems
1155 W. Pioneer Blvd, Suite 103-211
Mesquite, NV 89027
The package also says "US POSTAGE & FEES PAID/SALT LAKE CITY/PERMIT NO. 6146"
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Whip
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Califon, NJ | reply to nwrickert
Could this now fall under mail fraud as you did not order anyting? |
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nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
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| Could this now fall under mail fraud as you did not order anyting? I'm not sure of the technical definition of "mail fraud".
As I understand it, if a company sends me something I have not ordered, then I am not required to pay for it.
For the present, I'll keep the package around. If they want to make reasonable arrangements for shipping it back, at their shipping expense, then I'll attempt to do that. If I don't hear from them within a reasonable time, I will dispose of it. I'm not sure if that would count as toxic waste.
Some of the other complaints I linked to in the OP also mentioned having been sent unordered medication.
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said by nwrickert:Another data point on this. Today, in the mail, a bottle of pills arrived. According to the label, they were sent by
Lose Weight Systems
1155 W. Pioneer Blvd, Suite 103-211
Mesquite, NV 89027
The package also says "US POSTAGE & FEES PAID/SALT LAKE CITY/PERMIT NO. 6146" This could be the work of a rogue affiliate of Lose Weight Systems.
If the commissions are high enough and/or are paid fast enough, it's conceivable that a rogue affiliate is banking on receiving their commissions & then doing a disappearing act before the chargebacks start rolling in.
EDIT: The rogue affiliate possibility is less credible when you see that their site doesn't actually offer a way to order their product. The only serviced offered on their site is a way to dispute a charge they made against a credit card account.
»loseweightsystems.com/ |
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nwrickertsand groperPremium,MVM
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| Another recently registered domain.
Domain Name: LOSEWEIGHTSYSTEMS.COM
Registrar: FASTDOMAIN, INC.
Whois Server: whois.fastdomain.com
Referral URL: http://www.fastdomain.com
Name Server: NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.KONNECTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS3.KONNECTIONS.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 09-jan-2009
Creation Date: 09-jan-2009
Expiration Date: 09-jan-2010
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this one has a e-mail...with name
Domain Name: LOSEWEIGHTSYSTEMS.COM
Created on..............: 2009-01-09 10:13:51 GMT
Expires on..............: 2010-01-09 10:13:51 GMT
Last modified on........: 2009-01-09 15:45:59 GMT
Registrant Info: (FAST-13606679)
AWSM, LLC
Pete Maughan
543 North 790 East #209
Provo, Utah 84606
United States
Phone: +1.8017352775
Fax..:
Email: petemaughan@gmail.com
Last modified: 2009-01-09 10:13:51 GMT |
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MGDPremium,MVM
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said by Snowy:.... EDIT: The rogue affiliate possibility is less credible when you see that their site doesn't actually offer a way to order their product. The only serviced offered on their site is a way to dispute a charge they made against a credit card account. » loseweightsystems.com/ .
I agree, can almost rule that out at this point. From memory, this has an aroma along the line of an alleged scam that was reported on here maybe a year ago involving two brothers ex rock musicians. The name bright white or something. Anyway a tangent somewhere in that story led to a pill pushing operation in the same neighborhoods of Utah and Nevada. As I recall an individual named in a story published in Ripoffreports was alleged to have sold his card database and the "new" company started racking up orders against the cards. This reminds me of that same type of operation.
If it were "outside" or "affiliate" fraud the company would have long ago alerted the public to such an event. There are a massive amount of fraud reports. Also as you read through the reports in chronological order, you will see that the listed line item of the charges change, meaning that there are several merchant accounts being rotated. That is an indicator of conspiracy to defraud.
Several victims are reporting that they were called by their card issuers asking them if the charge was valid. Therefore some banks had the merchant accounts flagged for fraud in their systems. Multiple merchant accounts would need to be rotated in in order to counteract those fraud prevention measures.
nwrickert 's fraud charge is coming two months into the fraudulent operation. Now they have switched to foreign acquirer banks from domestic ones:
02/01 02/01 ADIPOSE RX 8004301529 KNA 34.84 02/19 FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE*FINANCE CHARGE 1.04
quote:
Thank you for your order!
Did you know we're under new management?
Yet the domain was only born on: 09-jan-2009
As nwrickert posted above, ADIPOSERX.COM was registered on 11/24/2008
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Registrant:
AdiposeRx
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003
United States
Domain Name: ADIPOSERX.COM
Created on: 24-Nov-08
Expires on: 24-Nov-10
Last Updated on: 05-Jan-09
Administrative Contact:
Rx, Adipose
AdiposeRx adiposerx@gmail.com
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003
United States
8772972311 Fax --
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ADIPOSERX.COM main page »adiposerx.com redirects to: >http://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/prolero/adipose/adipose_rx/index.php
Which states:
quote:
Site owned and operated by Turkey Out, Unit 13 Riverside Business Park, St Annes Road, Bristol England, BS4 4ED
All the domains discussed so far use the same DNS.
subscriptionmarketinginc.com is a cloaked by GoDaddy:
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Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Domain Name: SUBSCRIPTIONMARKETINGINC.COM
Created on: 22-May-08
Expires on: 22-May-09
Last Updated on: 02-Jun-08
Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration SUBSCRIPTIONMARKETINGINC.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS2.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS3.KONNECTIONS.COM
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But it was not always that way, the registration became cloaked and hidden sometime between 02/08/2009 and 02/12/2009. Prior to that it was registered as:
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Registrant:
Shaun Shelton
8867 Keystone Court
Eagle Mountain, Utah 84005
United States
Domain Name: SUBSCRIPTIONMARKETINGINC.COM
Created on: 22-May-08
Expires on: 22-May-09
Last Updated on: 02-Jun-08
Administrative Contact:
Shelton, Shaun tomenokr@gmail.com
8867 Keystone Court
Eagle Mountain, Utah 84005
United States
(801) 336-7080 Fax --
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS2.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS3.KONNECTIONS.COM
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"johnalaska" posted above that LOSEWEIGHTSYSTEMS.COM is registered to a Pete Maughan: »www.linkedin.com/in/petemaughan & »www.myspace.com/datefunk
Interesting that Shaun Shelton's name shows up in the same paragraph as Pete Maughan in this discussion of an alleged fraud called theGrantUniversity.com »www.complaintsboard.com/complain···575.html
quote:
44 days ago by Paulalois15
........I too am pissed
There are 3 perpetrators - their names are:
Brian Michael Avondet –
Randall Howard McKim –
Todd Allan Stadig -
They own Grant Solutions LLC located at
450 Hillside Drive, Building B, Suite 200
Mesquite, NV 89027
The company registration no is E0243532007-7
They leased www.grantuniversity.com from Cameron McPherson, who is presently suing the owners above and the company for misusing his domain name for fraudulent purposes.
To get your money back - go to your bank / credit card company and dispute all charges from this company and any related company. Write to the attorney General in Nevada - Good luck.
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5 days ago by hello kitty
I've been scammed and have been extensively researching these theives. Cameron McPherson and Shaun Shelton are in cahoots with eachother. I believe that Pete Maughan is also involved. Some of these sites they're in together on and some they're not. Here are just some of their scam websites:
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»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=th···G=Search
Need to start pulling some business records, and peel back the layers here. Clearly this fraud looks more like an "inside job". Soemone trying to get rich quick doing whatever.
MGD
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MGDPremium,MVM
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said by Whip:said by MGD:LOL Whip, We were checking out the same neighborhood at the same time !! I saw you......in your black suit, dark sunglasses, and newspaper trying to be all non-chalent standing on the corner. Yep, that was me !!
My dog was across the street following the scent of Adipose RX pills. |
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