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Re: Adipose RX

said by nwrickert:

Another data point on this.

Today, in the mail, a bottle of pills arrived. According to the label, they were sent by

Lose Weight Systems
1155 W. Pioneer Blvd, Suite 103-211
Mesquite, NV 89027

The package also says "US POSTAGE & FEES PAID/SALT LAKE CITY/PERMIT NO. 6146"

This could be the work of a rogue affiliate of Lose Weight Systems.
If the commissions are high enough and/or are paid fast enough, it's conceivable that a rogue affiliate is banking on receiving their commissions & then doing a disappearing act before the chargebacks start rolling in.

EDIT: The rogue affiliate possibility is less credible when you see that their site doesn't actually offer a way to order their product. The only serviced offered on their site is a way to dispute a charge they made against a credit card account.
»loseweightsystems.com/


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Thank you for your order..... LOL


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Another recently registered domain.


Domain Name: LOSEWEIGHTSYSTEMS.COM
Registrar: FASTDOMAIN, INC.
Whois Server: whois.fastdomain.com
Referral URL: http://www.fastdomain.com
Name Server: NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.KONNECTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS3.KONNECTIONS.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 09-jan-2009
Creation Date: 09-jan-2009
Expiration Date: 09-jan-2010


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said by Snowy:

....
EDIT: The rogue affiliate possibility is less credible when you see that their site doesn't actually offer a way to order their product. The only serviced offered on their site is a way to dispute a charge they made against a credit card account.
»loseweightsystems.com/
.

I agree, can almost rule that out at this point. From memory, this has an aroma along the line of an alleged scam that was reported on here maybe a year ago involving two brothers ex rock musicians. The name bright white or something. Anyway a tangent somewhere in that story led to a pill pushing operation in the same neighborhoods of Utah and Nevada. As I recall an individual named in a story published in Ripoffreports was alleged to have sold his card database and the "new" company started racking up orders against the cards. This reminds me of that same type of operation.

If it were "outside" or "affiliate" fraud the company would have long ago alerted the public to such an event. There are a massive amount of fraud reports. Also as you read through the reports in chronological order, you will see that the listed line item of the charges change, meaning that there are several merchant accounts being rotated. That is an indicator of conspiracy to defraud.

Several victims are reporting that they were called by their card issuers asking them if the charge was valid. Therefore some banks had the merchant accounts flagged for fraud in their systems. Multiple merchant accounts would need to be rotated in in order to counteract those fraud prevention measures.




nwrickert See Profile's fraud charge is coming two months into the fraudulent operation. Now they have switched to foreign acquirer banks from domestic ones:

02/01 02/01 ADIPOSE RX 8004301529 KNA 34.84 02/19 FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE*FINANCE CHARGE 1.04

quote:
Thank you for your order!

Did you know we're under new management?

Yet the domain was only born on: 09-jan-2009

As nwrickert See Profile posted above, ADIPOSERX.COM was registered on 11/24/2008

----------------------------------
Registrant:
AdiposeRx
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003
United States

Domain Name: ADIPOSERX.COM
Created on: 24-Nov-08
Expires on: 24-Nov-10
Last Updated on: 05-Jan-09

Administrative Contact:
Rx, Adipose
AdiposeRx adiposerx@gmail.com
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003
United States
8772972311 Fax --

----------------------------------

ADIPOSERX.COM main page »adiposerx.com redirects to: >http://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/prolero/adipose/adipose_rx/index.php



Which states:

quote:
Site owned and operated by Turkey Out, Unit 13 Riverside Business Park, St Annes Road, Bristol England, BS4 4ED

All the domains discussed so far use the same DNS.

subscriptionmarketinginc.com is a cloaked by GoDaddy:

------------------------------------
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Domain Name: SUBSCRIPTIONMARKETINGINC.COM
Created on: 22-May-08
Expires on: 22-May-09
Last Updated on: 02-Jun-08

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration SUBSCRIPTIONMARKETINGINC.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS2.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS3.KONNECTIONS.COM

------------------------------------

But it was not always that way, the registration became cloaked and hidden sometime between 02/08/2009 and 02/12/2009. Prior to that it was registered as:

------------------------------------
Registrant:
Shaun Shelton
8867 Keystone Court
Eagle Mountain, Utah 84005
United States

Domain Name: SUBSCRIPTIONMARKETINGINC.COM
Created on: 22-May-08
Expires on: 22-May-09
Last Updated on: 02-Jun-08

Administrative Contact:
Shelton, Shaun tomenokr@gmail.com
8867 Keystone Court
Eagle Mountain, Utah 84005
United States
(801) 336-7080 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS2.KONNECTIONS.COM
NS3.KONNECTIONS.COM
--------------------------------------------------

"johnalaska" posted above that LOSEWEIGHTSYSTEMS.COM is registered to a Pete Maughan: »www.linkedin.com/in/petemaughan & »www.myspace.com/datefunk

Interesting that Shaun Shelton's name shows up in the same paragraph as Pete Maughan in this discussion of an alleged fraud called theGrantUniversity.com »www.complaintsboard.com/complain···575.html

quote:
44 days ago by Paulalois15

........I too am pissed

There are 3 perpetrators - their names are:

Brian Michael Avondet –
Randall Howard McKim –
Todd Allan Stadig -

They own Grant Solutions LLC located at
450 Hillside Drive, Building B, Suite 200
Mesquite, NV 89027
The company registration no is E0243532007-7

They leased www.grantuniversity.com from Cameron McPherson, who is presently suing the owners above and the company for misusing his domain name for fraudulent purposes.

To get your money back - go to your bank / credit card company and dispute all charges from this company and any related company. Write to the attorney General in Nevada - Good luck.

---------------------------------------

5 days ago by hello kitty

I've been scammed and have been extensively researching these theives. Cameron McPherson and Shaun Shelton are in cahoots with eachother. I believe that Pete Maughan is also involved. Some of these sites they're in together on and some they're not. Here are just some of their scam websites:
....
...
.

»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=th···G=Search

Need to start pulling some business records, and peel back the layers here. Clearly this fraud looks more like an "inside job". Soemone trying to get rich quick doing whatever.

MGD
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The following link shows that Cameron McPherson and Shaun Shelton worked together or are working together.

»www.danhatesspam.com/superiorcourt.html

On this site, which is tracking superior and federal lawsuits, you'll find this info:

The Sellers Lounge LLC dba SubscriptionMarketingInc.com and TheSellersLounge.net, and Cameron McPherson of Sandy, UT and Shaun Shelton of Eagle Mountain, UT

Go to Adiposrx's website and right click on the homepage.
Click on "view page info". You'll see that the address is:

»secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.···ndex.php

Site owned and operated by Turkey Out, Unit 13 Riverside Business Park, St Annes Road, Bristol England, BS4 4ED
Terms and Conditions | Privacy Policy | Contact Us

Adiposerx is now registered through Godaddy and this is what comes up:

Registrant:
AdiposeRx

1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (»www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ADIPOSERX.COM
Created on: 24-Nov-08
Expires on: 24-Nov-10
Last Updated on: 05-Jan-09

Administrative Contact:
Rx, Adipose adiposerx@gmail.com
AdiposeRx
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003
United States
8772972311

Technical Contact:
Rx, Adipose adiposerx@gmail.com
AdiposeRx
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003
United States
8772972311

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.KONNECTIONS.COM

When I originally looked it was registered to Shaun Shelton.

Subscription Marketing was registered to either Shaun or Cameron, when I looked previously. I'll have to look through all of my research......and there's a lot. I've learned so so much about these people.

Here's the Subscription Marketing registrant, and he seems to be big time porn distributor from what I can tell.

Registrant:
Domainator.com
po box 11179.
Glendale, Arizona 85318
US

Registrar: NAMEZERO
Domain Name: SUBSCRIPTIONMARKETING.COM
Created on: 13-DEC-03
Expires on: 13-DEC-09
Last Updated on: 10-JAN-09

Administrative, Technical Contact:
Avots, Andy cooljohnny@worldnet.att.net
Domainator.com
po box 11179.
Glendale, Arizona 85318
US
623 587 8844
623 587 8855

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.TRAFFICZ.COM
NS2.TRAFFICZ.COM

What I find interesting is that many of these scam artists live in Utah.

When I received my carallumaextreme pills in the mail, thinking all the time that a friend of mine sent them as a joke, only to find that I had paid for them, I was furious. I hadn't ordered these directly or inadvertently on another website.

I knew the scammers had to have gotten my info from the only internet source I'd used my credit card on....that was two dating sites. After much research, I found that Spark Networks owns most of the matchmaking sites. This is from Spark Networks site:

»www.spark.net/default.htm

You can see just how many sites they own. Notice where their offices are?

Hmmmmm....
BEVERLY HILLS Headquarters, New York, Israel,

Registered office
Fifth Floor
99 Gresham St.
London, EC2V 7NG
England

and last, but not least.....

Provo
5252 Edgewood Dr. Suite 225
Provo, UT 84604
Tel: +1 801 377 6411
Fax: +1 801 377 6332
Contact Us »

I've wondered if someone from the dating site I used, leaked my credit card info, along with many others, to some friend of theirs in Utah....maybe Cameron's or Shaun's group. There are just too many coincidences within these many complaints.

I came across one domain site that showed that McPherson was associated with over 1 million sites and that over 400 domain names were registered to him.

I've got sooo much more and would like to share it with someone who's doing something about it. I put in a call to a certain news station and haven't heard anything yet. I'm going to try another one soon. I think this is BIG and it's very interesting.

I also noticed that the adiposerx site shows an address in England. Spark Networks has an office there too.

I'm not insinuating that the sites themselves are guilty of anything. I just think it could be an inside job. Do I sound crazy?



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Here's more interesting info:

»www.rvoi.com/location/voi/essay/···g_online

Go to the RVOI website and tah-dah....
singles website links, credit card info links....I'm very curious about all this.

This Eva Avots, I believe, is married to Andy Avots. They have many domain names registered to them. One is subscription marketing, which you can see in an earlier post. Subscription Marketing is tied to AdiposeRX, which are the weight loss pills everyone has gotten, but didn't order.

WHOIS information for: rvoi.com:

[whois.enom.com]
=-=-=-=
Visit AboutUs.org for more information about rvoi.com
AboutUs: rvoi.com

Registration Service Provided By: CyberPrise LLC
Contact: Eva@Domainator.com

Domain name: rvoi.com

Registrant Contact:
Domainator.com
Eva Avots ()
Fax:
po box 11179
Glendale, AZ 85306
US

Administrative Contact:
Domainator.com
Eva Avots (cooljohnny@worldnet.att.net)
+1.6235878844
Fax: +1.6235878855
po box 11179
Glendale, AZ 85306
US

Technical Contact:
Domainator.com
Eva Avots (cooljohnny@worldnet.att.net)
+1.6235878844
Fax: +1.6235878855
po box 11179
Glendale, AZ 85306
US

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
dns1.name-services.com
dns2.name-services.com
dns3.name-services.com
dns4.name-services.com
dns5.name-services.com

Creation date: 12 Mar 2004 14:07:55
Expiration date: 12 Mar 2009 14:07:55

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reply to MGD
This sounds a lot like what happened to me back in December 06 / January 07.
Started out with a charge on my mastercard from "Dream Smile" for 14.95 12/06. I disputed and had the charge removed. Then in January a company named leanrx.net, phone 800-304-8447 charged my card 79.95, I then opened a fraud report and had the card canceled. I also received a bottle of pills in the mail about a month after the charge.


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said by DNSguy:

This sounds a lot like what happened to me back in December 06 / January 07.
Started out with a charge on my mastercard from "Dream Smile" for 14.95 12/06. I disputed and had the charge removed. Then in January a company named leanrx.net, phone 800-304-8447 charged my card 79.95, I then opened a fraud report and had the card canceled. I also received a bottle of pills in the mail about a month after the charge.
Not only does it sound a lot like the dream smile / leanrx scam from 2006 - 2007 it appears to be a repeat of the exact same modus operandi.

Note your comment from Page 3 of that thread as to where the package of pills originated from:




Now look at one of the AdiposeRx domain registrations:


Registrant:
AdiposeRx
.
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003

United States
.
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (»www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ADIPOSERX.COM
Created on: 24-Nov-08
Expires on: 24-Nov-10
Last Updated on: 05-Jan-09
.
Administrative Contact:
Rx, Adipose adiposerx@gmail.com
AdiposeRx
1084 east state road
american fork, Utah 84003

United States
8772972311

.
The similarities do not end there either. Look at the RipoffReports.com threads from that period some of which are titled: Jason Taylor - Metabofuel - Oral Bright - Revenue Worx Scam, Ripoff Artist American Fork Utah

As noted in my earlier post, Pete Maughan the owner of prolero which appears to be at least one of the billing vehicles for: adipose rx via subscription inc:

>http://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/prolero/adipose/adipose_rx/index.php

lists on his resume that he was the Director of Marketing for Oral Bright" which is one of the names associated with the previous alleged scams. Also take note that Maughan lists "Director of Sales & marketing at ClearPay" as one of his previous jobs. ClearPay is a payment card processor, and Maughan has directories marked ClearPay:

>http://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/Prolero/clearplay/clearplay_dvd2/index.php

Some interesting comments posted in the circa 2006 ripoffreports leanrx thread regarding multiple merchant accounts.

Lean Life PM, Jason Brailow, Jab Ventures Corporate Information on Rip Off Artist Jason Brailow Sandy Draper Utah

-----------------------------------------------------------------
This is Jason
........ However, we have refunded every customer that has requested their money back.

We are not in the business anymore and have not been for several months. There is another company that has taken our products, and customers base, using similar descriptors, and has continued to bill them WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION.
We have been battling with them to stop doing this ever since. This is not us; I think you know exactly what company is doing this.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Jason, Please Read. Very Important
You're still doing business with all of the banks you had accounts with? Then why did you switch your product/billing name every couple of months? Why did you start applying for merchant accounts in your wife's name? Is that a trick Joey and Johnny taught you? .............

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Ref: »www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/1···3192.htm

Filing complaints with the FTC is fine, however, they are limited to civil action such as profit disgorgement etc.

If it were me I would also file a report at IC3 Internet Crime Complaint Center »www.ic3.gov/default.aspx as in my opinion what is taking place here is criminal, and I will explain why. Many fraud victims are reporting that they received an email confirmation of a credit after calling the company. That confirmation was sent to their correct email address, though they never provided it during the call. This company clearly has these victim's card data, along with their correct email address, which the victims never knowingly provided to this entity. It is a criminal act to obtain card data or use it to process fraudulent charges. Those felonies are covered under the federal identity theft statutes.

The fact that multiple revolving merchant accounts are being used is indicative of a conspiracy to commit fraud. Shipping product from Utah, then processing charges from a dubious offshore entity, and listing a month old UK limited company as the business name are all indications of criminal fraud.

This last paragraph was hidden in th eosurce code of one of the websites:

quote:
>title>AdiposePro>/title>
>link href="../../css/adipose_pro/css.css
...
..
Upon Ordering your Free Supply of CarallumaRx™, for your convenience, you will be automatically enrolled in our Auto-Ship program. The CarallumaRx™ 30 day Auto-Ship program is only $29.97 plus $4.87 shipping and handling and ensures that you will never run out of your supply. Within fourteen days of placing your order, you will automatically be shipped a 30-day supply of CarallumaRx™ and billed $29.97 plus shipping to your card. For questions or to cancel you may call our customer support team at (888) 332-5541.

You also agree to the 30 day free trial to MyFitnessMentor. I understand that if I do not cancel, I will be billed $29.99 per month until I do cancel. For questions or to cancel MyfitnessMentor, please call our Customer Support team at 1-866-972-2445, 8:30 AM to 5:00 PM PST, M-F. Charges will appear from CarallumaRx. Charges for MyFitnessMentor will appear from MyFitnessMentor.com. (888) 332-5541.

Every number they use is loaded with fraud charge complaints:

»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=88···G=Search

Note in this thread that 80% of the first reports are reporting that the fraud charges were on an Amex card: »phoneowner.info/Number.aspx/8883325541 which may indicate that the charges may have been processed off a card sorted by type listing.

»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=88···G=Search

This multi year pharma fraud operation centered in Utah and Nevada will never stop until the Feds start arresting and charging these fraudsters for serious crimes.

The UK "TURKEY OUT LTD" was just formed on January 12th 2009:


Company Details - TURKEY OUT LTD
Registered No.06788419
Address: UNIT 13 RIVERSIDE BUSINESS PARK,
ST ANNES ROAD, ST ANNES, BRISTOL, BS4 4ED
Tel:
.
Type: Private Limited with share capital
Incorporation Date: 12-01-2009
Status: Unknown
Last Accounts Filed up to: -
Last Accounts Analysed: -
Nature of business SIC: - Unknown


They are listing an address that has been in long term use by this company:

Print Express
Unit 13 Riverside Business ParkSt. Annes Road
St. Annes
Bristol
BS4 4ED

Telephone: 0117 972 4464

Fax: 0117 977 7394

Email: info[@]print-express.co.uk

»www.print-express.co.uk/contact.aspx


»www.print-express.co.uk/contact.aspx
Snapped 2009-03-19 22:32:16


Also if any new victims post here, please list the exact line item charge as it appears on your statement, as roving merchant accounts will show up differently.

MGD


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Also if any new victims post here, please list the exact line item charge as it appears on your statement, ...
I had a second charge. I haven't been billed for it yet, but it shows up on the account web side as a charge brought forward from the now cancelled card.
CARALLUMMA EXTREME 8005189164 KNA 34.84
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An addendum. A google search for CARALLUMMA brings up a bunch of similar reports.


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reply to nwrickert
When you call your bank to report the fraud charge, as them if they can or will tell you the name of the "acquirer bank". They may not know how to decode it, or are willing to disclose it, they should. I suspect that the KNA coding is the use of the ISO country code for Saint Kitts and Nevis. If so, that would be a page right out of the offshore fraud haven manual.

MGD


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said by nwrickert:

An addendum. A google search for CARALLUMMA brings up a bunch of similar reports.
All the same operation just passing the card around the turntable of sites on subscriptionmarketinginc.com

According to this programmer in India, he just completed a new project for them:




Ref: »www.odesk.com/users/LAMP-Expert_···4f440ae8

His referenced links:

>https://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/wealthtools/
»secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.···thtools/

The Sellers Lounge - Support

If you have any questions regarding The Sellers Lounge, please call or email using the contact information below.

Phone: 866-785-7328
Email: support@thesellerslounge.net
Address:
123 W. Nye Lane
Suite 527
Carson City, NV 89706

Unauthorized / fraudulent charges?:
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=86···aq=f&oq=

>http://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/persuasioninstitute/

>http://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/abg

>http://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/rereglobal
»secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.···reglobal

E-cash University - Customer Support

If you have any questions regarding Ecash University, please call or email using the contact information below.

Address: 1356 S Main St # 200, Orem, UT 84058

>https://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/assuredventures
»secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.···entures/

Profitsin9days - Customer Support

If you have any questions regarding Profitsin9days, please call or email using the contact information below.

Address: 321 East 300 North, Suite A, American Fork, UT 84003

Phone: 888-869-6388

Email:support@profitsin9days.com

>https://secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.com/wealthtools1
»secure.subscriptionmarketinginc.···thtools1
Black Sand Trading Partners - Support

If you have any questions regarding Black Sand Trading Partners, please call or email using the contact information below.

Phone: 877-875-8772
Email: support@blacksandtrading.com
Address:
2850 W Horizon Pkwy, Suite 200
Henderson, NV 89052

MGD

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said by nwrickert:

Also if any new victims post here, please list the exact line item charge as it appears on your statement, ...
I had a second charge. I haven't been billed for it yet, but it shows up on the account web side as a charge brought forward from the now cancelled card.
CARALLUMMA EXTREME 8005189164 KNA 34.84
said by nwrickert:

An addendum. A google search for CARALLUMMA brings up a bunch of similar reports.
Indeed, numerous identical sequenced fraud reports under the 800-518-9164 number »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=80···aq=f&oq=

One identical to yours has the victim perplexed as it showed up under the new replacement card. They must not be aware of the rollover issue:

quote:
Report: Adipose Rx - Caralluma Extreme - Lose Weight Systems

Adipose Rx - Caralluma Extreme - Lose Weight Systems I closed my cc account, opened a new one , and they got me on the new one!! Mesquite Nevada

Submitted: 3/14/2009 10:11:08 PM

Adipose Rx - Caralluma Extreme - Lose Weight Systems
Phone: 800-518-9164
Fax:
1155 West Pioneer Blvd. Suite 103-211
Mesquite, Nevada, 89027
U.S.A.

On 2/03 They charged my visa $34.84 under Adipose Rx 800-430-1529 and I received an unsolicited bottle of pills.
I disputed the charge and headed right here to Ripoffreport.com to find I had plenty of company.
I then closed my visa account and waited for a new card and new number.

Apprx. ten days later I received another package.
A few days later, yet another package.
I received my new visa, didn't activate it for a week and when I did, used it once.
On my next visa bill with the NEW number was another charge, this time under Caralluma Extreme 800-518-9164, same address.

How did they get the new account number??!!
I disputed this charge also, marked the unopened packages 'refused delivery' and sent them back.

Have you been able to track these #%@^ down yet? Please let me know if anyone has made any headway here.
What do I do, close my cc account again??

Lynne
Middletown, New York
U.S.A.

MGD

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