Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
 ·Embarq
| reply to jazzlady
Re: why watch tv online if I already have cable?
That's an angle you don't hear as often as you should: cable (content) channels supposedly pushing up the rates for cable providers, who pass it along to you, advertising the hell out of you anyway. The ratio of commercials to content on a prime-time network show is ridiculous; I don't, and won't, watch it. Five minutes of show, four minutes of commercials. It's stupefying why anyone would sit through that. Cable started out that way (nearly no commercials), and now they're almost as bad as the networks.
I suppose I'm spoiled by Netflix and PBS shows ...
The dumb pipers will meter bandwidth for sagging revenue. I don't believe a word regarding their increasing numbers -- everyone I talk with is either considering dropping cable or already has. If they have kids, they'll hang onto it as long as they can. Single people increasingly get what they need on the net and these guys have no recourse but to gouge your eyes out for access.
Why they bother with their own flavor of online content is beyond me ... it smells like bad PR -- the stink before the flush, so to speak.
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ITALIAN926
join:2003-08-16
Stratford, CT
1 edit | Everyone you talk with is dropping cable?? LOLOL What world do you live in? Hardly anyone is dropping cable.. no matter how many bbr geeks say they are. Most of the world still want high quality pictures on their TV's... not their PC's. Once ISP's start capping their service, this wonderful idea of TVip will be dead. Even FiOS will eventually add caps when too much of their video revenue becomes depleted.
VoIP has only survived bc of its very small amount of data consumption. |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| said by ITALIAN926  :Everyone you talk with is dropping cable?? LOLOL What world do you live in? Hardly anyone is dropping cable.. no matter how many bbr geeks say they are. In a world that values reading comprehension, evidently 
"everyone I talk with is either considering dropping cable or already has"
You're in CT, I'm in a rural area where unemployment is probably 1.5x to 2x the national average.
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| reply to ITALIAN926
said by ITALIAN926 :Most of the world still want high quality pictures on their TV's... not their PC's Oh, ok. Enjoy all your commercials while I enjoy high quality pictures on my second PC, which happens to have a DVI to HDMI cable that hooks directly to a 42 inch HDTV. It streams commercial free tv shows I actually like constantly, plus has a library of Tv shows from The Three Stooges and Our Gang, through the Honeymooners and Flintstones, all the way up to today, with everything in between.
So you just keep on watching your "reality tv" garbage, I'll be laughing from my grave (because I'll die from lack of vitamin D because my TV shows are so awesome). |
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jazzlady
join:2005-08-04
Bartonsville, PA
 ·ProLog
| reply to Titus Pullo
said by Titus Pullo :That's an angle you don't hear as often as you should: cable (content) channels supposedly pushing up the rates for cable providers, who pass it along to you, advertising the hell out of you anyway. The ratio of commercials to content on a prime-time network show is ridiculous; I don't, and won't, watch it. Five minutes of show, four minutes of commercials. It's stupefying why anyone would sit through that. Cable started out that way (nearly no commercials), and now they're almost as bad as the networks. Right you are- about both points.
My cable bill went up $5 a month when they added the Disney channel.
Hey- I don't have kids- and I've NEVER watched it. Not one single time. So I've paid hundreds of dollars for a channel I don't watch and would dump in a hot minute if I were able to.
Makes me feel justified when I "acquire" some of their films. They owe me.
Stupefying is a great way to phrase it. The amount of commercials is mind numbing. I tape anything I want to watch that is still broadcast in widescreen, so I don't have to sit through the commercials. I've seen as little as 4 minutes of the show interspersed with 5 minute commercial breaks. It's truly unbearable.
The dumb pipers will meter bandwidth for sagging revenue. I don't believe a word regarding their increasing numbers -- everyone I talk with is either considering dropping cable or already has. If they have kids, they'll hang onto it as long as they can. Single people increasingly get what they need on the net and these guys have no recourse but to gouge your eyes out for access.
Why they bother with their own flavor of online content is beyond me ... it smells like bad PR -- the stink before the flush, so to speak.
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LOL
That cracked me up.
But the more they meter, the more they're going to lose with people switching to uncapped alternatives like FIOS and DSL.
Are they too stupid to realize that giving people unlimited access, and charging a bit more for it is much better than losing the customer altogether?
Apparently so... |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
 ·VOIPo
| reply to ITALIAN926
Ifthe owners of FiOS were smart they would get together with the IPTV cos(like netflix, hulu, ect.) and get a bundle and keep the no cap, but charge a bit more for that package, and offer it with or with out normal tv. That would deal a blow to cablecos. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo
| reply to jazzlady
"But the more they meter, the more they're going to lose with people switching to uncapped alternatives like FIOS and DSL."
Yup, there will always be a ISP with a huge cap(1tb like in Japan) or no cap, there will always be a market for that, even if we have to par a but more(like $15-$20) for a business connection. |
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jazzlady
join:2005-08-04
Bartonsville, PA
·ProLog
| reply to james
said by james :said by ITALIAN926 :Most of the world still want high quality pictures on their TV's... not their PC's Oh, ok. Enjoy all your commercials while I enjoy high quality pictures on my second PC, which happens to have a DVI to HDMI cable that hooks directly to a 42 inch HDTV. So you just keep on watching your "reality tv" garbage... Hey- I resent that remark.... 
I will admit... I do like a couple of reality shows. I couldn't live without "No Reservations" and "Bizarre Foods" on the Travel channel, and I do like Iron Chef on the Food network and Ghost Hunters on SciFi.
But for the most part I HATE reality shows.... and lately the stations that used to show better stuff like TLC, Discovery, and History have switched to mind numbing reality tripe.
Like you I would like to set up a PC and HDTV, but really don't know much about doing this. I'd need another PC, and I'm still using my old analog tv. I still have analog cable, and I've read that analog cable on an HDTV looks pretty awful, that's why I haven't gotten a new set yet... |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| They'll know they've won when cable is reduced to reruns of:
Cops
Dog the Bounty Hunter
Cheaters
Wildest Police "(insert something here)"
House Porn (HGTV)
The Kardashian enema
Lockup "RAW"
(the last two are in their order on purpose!)
And ESPN, of course, where men gourmandize their way to the Cath Lab
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jazzlady
join:2005-08-04
Bartonsville, PA
·ProLog
| reply to me1212
said by me1212 :"But the more they meter, the more they're going to lose with people switching to uncapped alternatives like FIOS and DSL." Yup, there will always be a ISP with a huge cap(1tb like in Japan) or no cap, there will always be a market for that, even if we have to par a but more(like $15-$20) for a business connection. I was investigating a business connection with my cable ISP- only to find out it's more expensive, 1/3 the speed- and has a lower cap that I have now.
Makes no sense... |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| reply to jazzlady
said by jazzlady :lately the stations that used to show better stuff like TLC, Discovery, and History have switched to mind numbing reality tripe. Like you I would like to set up a PC and HDTV, but really don't know much about doing this. Luckily you can buy most of the shows from Discovery and TLC directly from them, or you used to be able to.
As far as doing the PC to HDTV thing, it's not that complicated, it's just expensive (unless you're patient and wait for sales). |
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tapeloop
1959. I try to kick the ball. I miss.
Premium
join:2004-06-27
Airstrip One
| reply to jazzlady
said by jazzlady :Like you I would like to set up a PC and HDTV, but really don't know much about doing this. I'd need another PC, and I'm still using my old analog tv. I still have analog cable, and I've read that analog cable on an HDTV looks pretty awful, that's why I haven't gotten a new set yet... You might want to check out:
»www.mythtv.org/
If you don't mind Linux, that is. |
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jazzlady
join:2005-08-04
Bartonsville, PA
·ProLog
| reply to james
said by james :said by jazzlady :lately the stations that used to show better stuff like TLC, Discovery, and History have switched to mind numbing reality tripe. Like you I would like to set up a PC and HDTV, but really don't know much about doing this. Luckily you can buy most of the shows from Discovery and TLC directly from them, or you used to be able to. As far as doing the PC to HDTV thing, it's not that complicated, it's just expensive (unless you're patient and wait for sales). I don't buy anything unless it's on sale!!! LOL
As far as buying shows- I don't want to own them. I just want to watch them.
The PC to HDTV thing now... that's a bit more complicated. I want to do this in my bedroom, where most of my tv viewing is done.
So I will need a new PC, sufficiently fast enough for the task, and an HDTV to replace my old analog set. Plus a wireless keyboard of some kind of course...
I'm seriously considering it... |
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asd454
@windstream.net
| reply to ITALIAN926
Cable really doesn't offer much. I dropped it a year ago and haven't missed it. I guess if I suddenly develop a taste for lowest common denominator reality shows, mindless sporting events,fluff piece news, and crappy a$$ movies I'll consider picking it back up.
said by ITALIAN926 :Everyone you talk with is dropping cable?? LOLOL What world do you live in? Hardly anyone is dropping cable.. no matter how many bbr geeks say they are. Most of the world still want high quality pictures on their TV's... not their PC's. Once ISP's start capping their service, this wonderful idea of TVip will be dead. Even FiOS will eventually add caps when too much of their video revenue becomes depleted. VoIP has only survived bc of its very small amount of data consumption. |
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james
join:2001-02-26
antarctica
| reply to jazzlady
said by jazzlady :So I will need a new PC, sufficiently fast enough for the task, and an HDTV to replace my old analog set. Plus a wireless keyboard of some kind of course... I'm seriously considering it... The PC doesn't have to be fast at all, the one I'm using is only 1Ghz and has 512MB of ram, the only thing you need alot of is hard drive space to store the tv shows and a decent video card that can display higher resolutions at a decent refresh rate. |
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to jazzlady
Hmm. Well I just know that the ones around here are no cap for business lines. What cableco? are there any others/any DSLs(with no cap) where u live? I know one way to have no cap legaly, but not that much speed(1m-ish). |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs:
·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner Cable
·Time Warner VOIP
2 edits | reply to asd454
said by asd454 :Cable really doesn't offer much. I dropped it a year ago and haven't missed it. I guess if I suddenly develop a taste for lowest common denominator reality shows, mindless sporting events,fluff piece news, and crappy a$$ movies I'll consider picking it back up. said by ITALIAN926 :Everyone you talk with is dropping cable?? LOLOL What world do you live in? Hardly anyone is dropping cable.. no matter how many bbr geeks say they are. Most of the world still want high quality pictures on their TV's... not their PC's. Once ISP's start capping their service, this wonderful idea of TVip will be dead. Even FiOS will eventually add caps when too much of their video revenue becomes depleted. VoIP has only survived bc of its very small amount of data consumption. downloaded video is higher quality compared to Time Warner CAble
FOX11 HD looks is neer downloaded quality from torrent
624 x352 is comparale to TWC's "1280x720" |
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jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | reply to Titus Pullo
So 12-16 percent then? Got it.
Hyperbole much? |
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Titus Pullo
I came, I saw, I slept
join:2004-06-26
·Embarq
| said by jester121 :So 12-16 percent then? Got it. Hyperbole much? Ignorance of one's current reality, much?
Actual unemployment rate 13.9%: Merrill Lynch
»www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.···yAlert01
and that's a month ago. Check out the rust belt for unemployment numbers NOW, like, uh ... today.
Are you really this daft? Do you live in Lush Rumball's world?
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jazzlady
join:2005-08-04
Bartonsville, PA
·ProLog
| reply to me1212
said by me1212 :Hmm. Well I just know that the ones around here are no cap for business lines. What cableco? are there any others/any DSLs(with no cap) where u live? I know one way to have no cap legaly, but not that much speed(1m-ish). Prolog is the ISP, Blue Ridge Cable is the conduit. They're all part of PenTeleData corp anyway.
The business account is 5 Mbps, I forget the price- with a 75G/75G cap.
I don't need the upload, just the download. My cap is between 80-100 gigs now on the 15 Mbps tier. So their business offerings are worthless to me.
The only other alternative I have is Verizon 3 Mbps DSL. Since that is uncapped I'd go with that if I have to. |
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