 MchartFirst There.
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | reply to jazzlady
Re: why watch tv online if I already have cable? I have no problems using Hulu. In fact, because of Hulu, and I stopped paying for cable TV a while ago. Now i'm just paying $50 a month for my internet bill. Granted, I don't get every TV show out there - But there is usually nothing good on Cable TV anyways. You are paying money for something that shows something you want only 10% of the time. Hence why people are so attached to their Tivo-esque devices these days. |
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| said by Mchart:I have no problems using Hulu. In fact, because of Hulu, and I stopped paying for cable TV a while ago. Now i'm just paying $50 a month for my internet bill. Granted, I don't get every TV show out there - But there is usually nothing good on Cable TV anyways. You are paying money for something that shows something you want only 10% of the time. Hence why people are so attached to their Tivo-esque devices these days. If I could get Hulu to work properly... their Flash based streaming is not smooth on any of my systems- even my quad core, and I have a 15 Mbps connection, so that's not the problem.
I can watch the same shows at the network sites- like CBS.com- and the streaming is much smoother.
I would love a la carte cable. I want to dump 90% of the channels I have because I don't watch them. And it really pi$$es me off every time my bill goes up because of them. Disney comes to mind with all it's offshoots. Ka-ching, ka-ching...
Hulu is the wave of the future. They're even advertising on tv. And now there is a plethora of other sites as well like tv.com, joost.com, veoh.com, sling.com and several others.
The handwriting is on the wall for the cable companies. They better forget about providing video and stick with just being a dumb pipe or else they'll just disappear altogether. |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO | said by jazzlady:If I could get Hulu to work properly... their Flash based streaming is not smooth on any of my systems- even my quad core, and I have a 15 Mbps connection, so that's not the problem. (snip) My bet is that this has more to do with the video card than your processor. For years (and several generations of chips) we've been able to watch smooth DVDs (MPEG2) on entry level desktops. The streams you are watching might be MPEG4, which does require more power to decode but if you say your connection is not the problem, a quad-core should have plenty of power to decode as long as your video subsystem can render it. My son has a TV tuner card in his PC and until I bought him a new graphics card, 1080 HD video was not smooth. He was using the built-into-the-motherboard video which was not very powerful. It didn't matter that he had a dual core CPU. However, after we upgraded his video card to, by today's standards, a modest nVidia 8600GT, the problem vanished. |
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 badtripI heart the East BayPremium
join:2004-03-20
Albany, CA | reply to jazzlady
When my Dish contract is up, I'm gone. I'm tired of paying for commercials and channels I never watch. I basically watch HBO and a little Comedy Central and Cartoon Network.
At first my wife protested a bit but when I showed her how well Hulu works on the PS3, her complaints dissipated. Further, the PS3 plays damn near any media file I throw at it. I can no longer justify paying monthly for video entertainment. |
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join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY | reply to Mchart
said by Mchart:I have no problems using Hulu. In fact, because of Hulu, and I stopped paying for cable TV a while ago. Now i'm just paying $50 a month for my internet bill. Granted, I don't get every TV show out there - But there is usually nothing good on Cable TV anyways. You are paying money for something that shows something you want only 10% of the time. Hence why people are so attached to their Tivo-esque devices these days. The advantage of Hulu (and the Network's Streaming Content) is that if you are willing to wait 1-8 days after the original broadcast of an episode, you can see it whenever you want (even "older" episodes) and not get locked into needing to watch (or DVR Record) it when the network wants to air it. Also, when there are more shows airing that you want to watch than your DVR can handle (there are cases where 3-4 shows are airing opposite each-other) you can stream (or P2P) the others to see them later. |
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MchartFirst There.
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | said by RARPSL:said by Mchart:I have no problems using Hulu. In fact, because of Hulu, and I stopped paying for cable TV a while ago. Now i'm just paying $50 a month for my internet bill. Granted, I don't get every TV show out there - But there is usually nothing good on Cable TV anyways. You are paying money for something that shows something you want only 10% of the time. Hence why people are so attached to their Tivo-esque devices these days. The advantage of Hulu (and the Network's Streaming Content) is that if you are willing to wait 1-8 days after the original broadcast of an episode, you can see it whenever you want (even "older" episodes) and not get locked into needing to watch (or DVR Record) it when the network wants to air it. Also, when there are more shows airing that you want to watch than your DVR can handle (there are cases where 3-4 shows are airing opposite each-other) you can stream (or P2P) the others to see them later. Well, the stuff thats not on Hulu I just download. Doesn't take to long to download the 720p HDTV rips via rapidshare, and usually the rips hit the internet only a few hours after the show airs on TV. |
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join:2004-06-21
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| said by Mchart:said by RARPSL:said by Mchart:I have no problems using Hulu. In fact, because of Hulu, and I stopped paying for cable TV a while ago. Now i'm just paying $50 a month for my internet bill. Granted, I don't get every TV show out there - But there is usually nothing good on Cable TV anyways. You are paying money for something that shows something you want only 10% of the time. Hence why people are so attached to their Tivo-esque devices these days. The advantage of Hulu (and the Network's Streaming Content) is that if you are willing to wait 1-8 days after the original broadcast of an episode, you can see it whenever you want (even "older" episodes) and not get locked into needing to watch (or DVR Record) it when the network wants to air it. Also, when there are more shows airing that you want to watch than your DVR can handle (there are cases where 3-4 shows are airing opposite each-other) you can stream (or P2P) the others to see them later. Well, the stuff thats not on Hulu I just download. Doesn't take to long to download the 720p HDTV rips via rapidshare, and usually the rips hit the internet only a few hours after the show airs on TV. some times it's faster to download them and watch them before it airs |
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MchartFirst There.
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | There are a few cases where the show usually airs in Canada first, but thats pretty rare. |
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 SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA | reply to rradina
Lately, Hulu seems to be getting choppy at prime watching time. |
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SLDPremium
join:2002-04-17
San Francisco, CA
2 edits | reply to badtrip
If only HBO and Showtime would make their shows like Weeds available on Hulu! I don't mean two-seasons ago content. |
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said by badtrip:At first my wife protested a bit but when I showed her how well Hulu works on the PS3, her complaints dissipated. Further, the PS3 plays damn near any media file I throw at it. I can no longer justify paying monthly for video entertainment. Tell me more...
How do you access the net with a PS3? Can you surf with it?
I did consider this route with either a PS3 or XBOX, neither of which I own, so any info you can give would be appreciated. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by jazzlady:said by badtrip:At first my wife protested a bit but when I showed her how well Hulu works on the PS3, her complaints dissipated. Further, the PS3 plays damn near any media file I throw at it. I can no longer justify paying monthly for video entertainment. Tell me more... How do you access the net with a PS3? Can you surf with it? The PS3 has a web browser. It works. I've watched Hulu on it.
I did consider this route with either a PS3 or XBOX, neither of which I own, so any info you can give would be appreciated. No web browser with the 360. Though you can stream Netflix. You have to have a XBL gold membership which is $50 a year. And of course a Netlfix membership which is going to be $9 a month.
PlayOn will allow 360 owners to stream Hulu and allow PS3 owners to stream Netflix. It's $40 one time charge and has a 2 week free trial.
»www.themediamall.com/ |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Mchart
said by Mchart:Well, the stuff thats not on Hulu I just download. Doesn't take to long to download the 720p HDTV rips via rapidshare, and usually the rips hit the internet only a few hours after the show airs on TV. I know you don't care, but that's illegal. Not sure why you just don't do things legally. People like you ruins shit for the rest of us. |
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MchartFirst There.
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL
2 edits | said by BF69:said by Mchart:Well, the stuff thats not on Hulu I just download. Doesn't take to long to download the 720p HDTV rips via rapidshare, and usually the rips hit the internet only a few hours after the show airs on TV. I know you don't care, but that's illegal. Not sure why you just don't do things legally. People like you ruins shit for the rest of us. Downloading TV shows that are being shown over the air in HD anyways is illegal? Maybe it is by technicality - But lets be realistic here. For $30 I could buy an HD Antenna and hook it up to my TV and have watched the same show in the same quality anyways. So me downloading it is nowhere near illegal on any normal human beings moral compass. I'm not ruining anything for anyone. The only people 'ruining' anything are the people still paying $80 a month for a service that provides commercials 80% of the time.
I don't do things the 'legal' way, because as I just explained, the 'legal' way is me spending $30 on an HD Antenna and thats it. However, the benefit to downloading the rip is that I can watch it when I want, where I want - Instead of being forced to buy some overpriced DVR unit that also has another monthly free attached to it. Not to mention, many of the networks have begun broadcasting their shows lately in a fashion that makes it so playback from a DVR is impossible.
I know your pissed because you still spend a fortune on your AD TV - But get with the program, honestly. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by Mchart:said by BF69:said by Mchart:Well, the stuff thats not on Hulu I just download. Doesn't take to long to download the 720p HDTV rips via rapidshare, and usually the rips hit the internet only a few hours after the show airs on TV. I know you don't care, but that's illegal. Not sure why you just don't do things legally. People like you ruins shit for the rest of us. Downloading TV shows that are being shown over the air in HD anyways is illegal? Maybe it is by technicality - But lets be realistic here. For $30 I could buy an HD Antenna and hook it up to my TV and have watched the same show in the same quality anyways. So me downloading it is nowhere near illegal on any normal human beings moral compass. I'm not ruining anything for anyone. The only people 'ruining' anything are the people still paying $80 a month for a service that provides commercials 80% of the time. I don't do things the 'legal' way, because as I just explained, the 'legal' way is me spending $30 on an HD Antenna and thats it. However, the benefit to downloading the rip is that I can watch it when I want, where I want - Instead of being forced to buy some overpriced DVR unit that also has another monthly free attached to it. Not to mention, many of the networks have begun broadcasting their shows lately in a fashion that makes it so playback from a DVR is impossible. I know your pissed because you still spend a fortune on your AD TV - But get with the program, honestly. There is nothing "technial" about anything. And no I'm not pissed at anything other than people that steal and break the law. Is that the best point you can make? You know serial killers and child molesters justify their ways too doesn't make it ok. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to Mchart
said by Mchart:I don't do things the 'legal' way, because as I just explained, the 'legal' way is me spending $30 on an HD Antenna and thats it. However, the benefit to downloading the rip is that I can watch it when I want, where I want - Instead of being forced to buy some overpriced DVR unit that also has another monthly free attached to it. Not to mention, many of the networks have begun broadcasting their shows lately in a fashion that makes it so playback from a DVR is impossible. The thing is you don't have a "right" do do that. Hence the flaw in your argument. If you want to watch that content whenever where ever then PAY for it like you should. Is $2 too hard to come by? if so then maybe watching Tv shouldn't be your highest priority. |
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MchartFirst There.
join:2004-01-21
Gurnee, IL | said by BF69:said by Mchart:I don't do things the 'legal' way, because as I just explained, the 'legal' way is me spending $30 on an HD Antenna and thats it. However, the benefit to downloading the rip is that I can watch it when I want, where I want - Instead of being forced to buy some overpriced DVR unit that also has another monthly free attached to it. Not to mention, many of the networks have begun broadcasting their shows lately in a fashion that makes it so playback from a DVR is impossible. The thing is you don't have a "right" do do that. Hence the flaw in your argument. If you want to watch that content whenever where ever then PAY for it like you should. Is $2 too hard to come by? if so then maybe watching Tv shouldn't be your highest priority. Once again, it's free for me either way. Either I can spend 30 bucks on an HD antenna and get the content for free, or spend nothing and continue downloading the rips.
Watching TV isn't my highest priority, thats why I don't pay for cable television and watch a few select shows on services which are completely legal like Hulu; Or occasionaly download the HD rips of shows like Lost.
My argument isn't flawed at all. Free is free. I could give a rats ass about the technicality of it. Comparing what i'm doing to raping someones daughter is absolutely rediculous. |
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said by BF69:said by Mchart:Well, the stuff thats not on Hulu I just download. Doesn't take to long to download the 720p HDTV rips via rapidshare, and usually the rips hit the internet only a few hours after the show airs on TV. I know you don't care, but that's illegal. Not sure why you just don't do things legally. People like you ruins shit for the rest of us. I do the same thing.
I watch everything I can on the network sites, but at least in the case of CBS- there are many shows that are not available for online viewing.
So what is the alternative? For me, it's to watch an awful looking center cut show on my analog cable- or download it from usenet.
I don't get any kind of OTA signal where I live. Zero, zip, nada, nothing whatsoever. So I have to download the stuff the networks won't put online because I refuse to watch it in 4:3.
I would watch legally, but I don't have that option. I'm sure I'm not the only one in a rural area in the same situation. |
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| said by jazzlady: So I have to download the stuff the networks won't put online because I refuse to watch it in 4:3.I would watch legally, but I don't have that option. I'm sure I'm not the only one in a rural area in the same situation. Sure you have the option. You just choose to ignore legalities because you want something. The same excuse used by criminals for all time.
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| said by fAcEtIOUs:said by jazzlady: So I have to download the stuff the networks won't put online because I refuse to watch it in 4:3.I would watch legally, but I don't have that option. I'm sure I'm not the only one in a rural area in the same situation. Sure you have the option. You just choose to ignore legalities because you want something. The same excuse used by criminals for all time. And my options are....?
a) watch a half assed 4:3 broadcast of a widescreen program
b) sign up for digital cable and increase my cable bill by at least 50%
Since I don't have the option of OTA, and CBS refuses to put the shows I want on their website, which of these options is the better one to watch a FREE tv show? |
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