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funchords
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It's a shame, too

It's here, it works. What is this LTE stuff and where can I get it today? No thanks. WiMax is here, it works, even at 60 MPH, it works.

Yesterday, on Clear's WiMax, I was watching the Today Show podcast from msnbc.com when I paused it to then watch the Madoff segment of 60-minutes from cbsnews.com. Stuff like that tends to bring Verizon EDVO to its knees. I couldn't even surf on AT&T's 3G HSPDEFG when I tried it.

Intel is a great company (disclosure: former employer) who does have a tendency to exit businesses when its future starts to looks bleak. But even in these hard times, Clear is where Intel is. It must see a future.

Of course you could do a side-by-side comparison -- except you can't, since LTE is vaporware here.
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mobbo

join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX

Yup. It works. Our company is using it for our construction trailers at 3 sites now, and it's just like having DSL/Cable but without the hassle of a line being run to those temp sites.

I will say though that they really need to start rolling out more markets ASAP! We're only using them here while it's being tested.


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reply to funchords
WiMax is vaporware everywhere except, it seems, where you are. The so-called deployment here in Chicagoland is MIA. Careful where you point that hyperbole.



Matt
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said by RadioDoc:

WiMax is vaporware everywhere except, it seems, where you are. The so-called deployment here in Chicagoland is MIA. Careful where you point that hyperbole.
MOBILE WiMax is, Clearwire has offered pre-WiMAX for several years in lots of places. »www.clearwire.com/store/service_areas.php


ninjatutle
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Funny how they are nowhere but they have a vocal following here on BBR. Everytime theres an article about WIMAX. People come out of the woodworks calling LTE vaporware

This is why I'm on HSPDA 3G. Because there is service.


Matt
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said by ninjatutle:

Funny how they are nowhere but they have a vocal following here on BBR. Everytime theres an article about WIMAX. People come out of the woodworks calling LTE vaporware

This is why I'm on HSPDA 3G. Because there is service.
WiMAX as a technology is superior in every way to HSDPA 3G and EVDO Rev A. I think that's why there is a vocal following. If I had a choice between Mobile WiMax or any other currently offered service, I'd take mobile WiMax. That may change when LTE arrives, but that has yet to be seen.

The only thing, as you mentioned, that EVDO and HSDPA have going for them is deployment. However, how long did it take to get deployed to the level it is now? 10 years? How long as Mobile WiMax been around, 1 year -- in a crappy economy.

Regardless, having WiMax as competition is a good thing, no matter what you think of the technology or the company behind it. Or would you prefer to have two choices for mobile broadband, AT&T and Verizon? They've totally proven they are competitive haven't they?


ninjatutle
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WiiMAX is a glorified WIFI network while LTE is 4G. Thats the difference.



Matt
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said by ninjatutle:

WiiMAX is a glorified WIFI network while LTE is 4G. Thats the difference.
Thanks for that factual comparison. I'm sure you answered a lot of doubts people had about the two. Kudos!


funchords
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said by ninjatutle:

WiiMAX is a glorified WIFI network while LTE is 4G. Thats the difference.
Wow. Given this technical assessment, you have a bright future career in a broadband marketing department.
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DaveDude
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reply to funchords
Well that fact is that LTE will be an international standard, does help. Also HSDPA, HSPA, UMTS is part of the upgrade path to LTE. So you could say Wimax and LTE are at concurrent growth since Wimax is still beta, and LTE is still UMTS, and hasnt moved to LTE fully yet..



funchords
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Educate me, because I don't know, is WiMax not a standard? What is this pre-Wimax stuff that Clear/Xohm's non-pre WiMax replaces?


bac522

join:2003-08-04
Manchester, NH

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An international standard that the big carriers control...IE...monopoly!



DaveDude
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said by bac522:

An international standard that the big carriers control...IE...monopoly!
Sprint isnt a big nationwide carrier ? How is up to seven choices in a market = monopoly. LTE or any other standard is not more or less under a carriers control then others. WI-MAX and GSM are synonymous according to you..


rf_engineer

join:2003-08-04
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reply to funchords

said by funchords:

It's here, it works. What is this LTE stuff and where can I get it today? No thanks. WiMax is here, it works, even at 60 MPH, it works.

Yesterday, on Clear's WiMax, I was watching the Today Show podcast from msnbc.com when I paused it to then watch the Madoff segment of 60-minutes from cbsnews.com. Stuff like that tends to bring Verizon EDVO to its knees. I couldn't even surf on AT&T's 3G HSPDEFG when I tried it.

Intel is a great company (disclosure: former employer) who does have a tendency to exit businesses when its future starts to looks bleak. But even in these hard times, Clear is where Intel is. It must see a future.

Of course you could do a side-by-side comparison -- except you can't, since LTE is vaporware here.
Working at 60 MPH is great, if you have multiple sites that you can handoff between...otherwise you have to drive in a circle around the one WiMax site

EVDO quality varies. I've used it in the hinterlands here in PA to watch live video with no problem. In some areas here where there are more deer than people you can get full signal strength and 1.5 Mbps. Clearwire doesn't show any dots in the state. Wimax modems here make good bookends. LTE may be vaporware from your perspective, but the carriers that have announced their adoption of it have the funding to do it and already have extensive 3G coverage well beyond anything WiMax has. If you think they're not going to make the transition to 4G sometime, note that there was a 1G, 2G, and 3G.

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