rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
|  ATT, 5GB, No Linux
While I am not a huge fan of subsidy(s) as the required contract has just pushed the cost of the netbook up $1,440.
BUT 3 strikes and your out...
1) No Linux for subsidy units, at least on the Dell Mini Inspiron. (A plus Dell is finally offering the red one shown around tradeshows.  )
2) ATT
3) 5GB cap
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
| Linux on netbooks has been all but a disaster at retail. Returns are ridiculously high compared to windows based netbooks. One of the big issues in subsidy/contract models is handling returns. Doing a subsidy program on linux based netbooks would be financial suicide for all parties involed.
The MS license for XP on netbooks is cheap...so if you want linux on a subsidized netbook that bad just buy an XP model and wipe it and install linux. |
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rec9140
Provoice just DO it
join:2003-07-29
Mulberry, FL
| said by beaups  :
Linux on netbooks has been all but a disaster at retail. Returns are ridiculously high compared to windows based netbooks. One of the big issues in subsidy/contract models is handling returns. Doing a subsidy program on linux based netbooks would be financial suicide for all parties involed.
Dell seems to be selling 1 in 3 or 33% with Linux. And Dell specifically states that the returns on Linux v. WinidiotOS are about equal.
»linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?si···from=rss
»blog.laptopmag.com/one-third-of-···un-linux
"According to Dell, the the return rate of Ubuntu running Mini 9s are comparable to the XP rate, which we are told is “very low.” “Our focus has been making sure that before the order is taken is that the customer knows what he is getting,” New added."
said by beaups :
The MS license for XP on netbooks is cheap...so if you want linux on a subsidized netbook that bad just buy an XP model and wipe it and install linux.
NO WAY. I personally and no agency/business I have a say in, will no longer fund in any way shape or form ms, period.
I'll buy the ~ $600 one in Red with Linux on it. I have to wipe it anyway as the Linux distro Dell uses is gnome based and one of its creators is nothing more than an ms lackey, and it looks terrible, lack of options, and alot of other reasons I can't stand gnome. Something with KDE 3.5.10 (pass on 4.x) will get installed.
The subsidy looks nice from a business standpoint of initial cost savings, and since I need the network access any way, but....
1) ATT - Is not an approved carrier for a lot of reasons, coverage and technology being the two biggest
2) Caps - They all have it, but at roughly 400MB/day it won't take long for 5GB to fly by.
3) No Linux
If I have to purchase these, then wipe them, then install Linux then there are costs in doing this. Spending $$$ to do this is not cost effective since I've just blown away the subsidy in my costs to disinfect the machines.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
 ·T-Mobile US
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“Our focus has been making sure that before the order is taken is that the customer knows what he is getting,”
So in other words Dell is selling it to linux users (who else would choose it?) and they still getting returns?
I'm all for linux everywhere but it's downright lame, this pathetic spinning of this story.
Disclaimer: I use linux literally every day since Hurricane  - nowadays exclusively CentOS (I keep trying Kubuntu but it's just not my world...)
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to rec9140
I stated returns at RETAIL. They are WAY WAY higher than windows, and sell through is far lower. Again it would be a disaster handling subisdies on a linux box. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
| I am going to expand a bit here.
Dell's reported sales/returns on direct order of a Linux netbook is very different than an advertised/subsidized/retail model. A Linux user SEEKING a LINUX based netbook is fine and understands what they are getting, but for the majority of manufacturers Linux based netbooks were merely a way to cut costs due to the expensive MS license and the fact that netbooks did not run vista well.
Now that MS offers a sub $30 XP license for netbooks, it has all but killed Linux in the retail channel. Taking a linux box and marketing it to the masses (free with contract type deal) would be a train wreck. If you sent an average PC user home with a Linux netbook, they are likely not going to be happy. |
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